Facebook Fascists & Nihilist Naderites

Tara Carreon

I've been disturbed for some time, since Nader's campaign really got going and I became interested enough to devote much of my time to promoting Ralph Nader, that the people who control his campaign and facebook page act like Nazi Communists. There are some pretty simple indicators: suppression of speech among loyal supporters being top of the list. When they deleted all of my posts on Nader's Facebook page yesterday, I was reminded of Diego Rivera's story of how he was expelled from the Communist Party. In "Diego Rivera, My Art, My Life," in a chapter called, "I am Expelled from the Party," Diego states: http://www.naderlibrary.com/cia.diegomylife.expelled.htm

Tara Carreon · Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:59 am Post subject:

Take Ashley Sanders, for example. She's such a nice person, cute, and REALLY intelligent, in a limited political kind of way, but why is a Mormon anarchist running the votenader.org website? I met Ashley at the Denver Nader rally, and talked with her for a while, and she's so sweet and good intentioned, but really misguided with her anarchist thing.

MONDO BIZARRO -- UP AGAINST THE WALL ANARCHIST MOTHERFUCKERS!, by Tara Carreon
http://www.naderlibrary.com/mondo.upagainstwall.htm

Tara Carreon · Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:15 pm Post subject:

Then there's another Nader Facebook poster I encountered, Georgina Gozum, the girl who told me to "trust her" about Obama Girl, who I had an extended conversation with over a couple of days. When I told her that every time someone said "trust me," I felt I was looking at a fascist, she and another guy started ridiculing me. That makes four people who ganged up on me on Nader's facebook page.

Ironically enough, this was another point the Communist party had against Diego Rivera: he didn't trust anyone!:

Tara Carreon · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:27 am Post subject:

Here are the posts generated on a secret board created by Patrick Miner after he deleted my posts of October 24 on "Nader's" Facebook page, and then later deleted me as a friend of Ralph Nader!

Ralph Nader
October 24 at 11:21pm
Reply Geraldine and Tara,
Please limit the number of posts you make on the Ralph Nader profile. Perhaps you could continue your discussion in a message format as we have here. The reason I ask is that we'd really like to have space for other people to write posts.
Thanks so much for your interest in the campaign!
-Patrick
Patrick Miner
patrick@votenader.org
Nader for President 2008
PO Box 34103
Washington DC 20043
202.471.5833

www.votenader.org
Geraldine Unreasonable Mckeon
October 24 at 11:23pm
Reply tara bothers everyone
make her stop
she attacks everyone,many people complain about her

Geraldine Unreasonable Mckeon
October 24 at 11:25pm
Reply I will remove all my posts.but she really attacks people & you

Geraldine Unreasonable Mckeon
October 24 at 11:26pm
Reply I will only remove mine if she removes hers
sorry,but she really has no motive Ralph Nader

October 24 at 11:27pm
Reply You don't need to remove all your posts--I removed several. I don't want you to feel as though you can't write on the wall. I just want to make sure the wall is not dominated by two posters.
Thanks again.
-Patrick

Geraldine Unreasonable Mckeon
October 24 at 11:28pm
Reply I think she is anti- nader Geraldine Unreasonable Mckeon

October 24 at 11:30pm
Reply i tried to email her after her 1st assault,but she continued,I have recieved several emails about her from fellow nader supporters
she is a menace Geraldine Unreasonable Mckeon

October 24 at 11:53pm
Reply I am doing everything I can to promote ralph.I will not be side tracked by that sidetracking bibliographer again. as you know,that quoter is a handful

Geraldine Unreasonable Mckeon
October 24 at 7:10pm
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
-George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman (1903)
"Maxims for Revolutionists" Geraldine Unreasonable Mckeon at 10:08pm October 24
Ralph Nader is a member of my group.Don't put words in other peoples mouths you blowhard! I never called Nader a crusader.I have the meaning of my words you patronizing shrew! You don't own Nader or democracy,so get over your righteous self!

Geraldine Unreasonable Mckeon
October 24 at 9:48pm
Re: In response to your nightly diatribe....
P.S. Tara: you can't even form a thought without a bibliography in front of you!

Geraldine Unreasonable Mckeon
October 24 at 10:08pm
Re: In response to your nightly diatribe....
"Just so you know,I don't believe in censorship,I think all that should have been left up there.Since they took your part down,I removed MINE."

Tara Carreon · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:49 am Post subject:

I sent an email to Patrick Miner directing him to this thread and asking how dare he call himself Ralph Nader on the Ralph Nader facebook page, and he replied:

Tara Carreon · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:35 am Post subject:

These are all the posts I made on the Nader facebook page, except for the ones on October 23 that they deleted about changing our middle name to "Unreasonable," and Henriette Mantel promoting fascist ideas. Hardly "nightly diatribes."

Tara Carreon wrote at 10:19pm
October 17, 2008
Vincent Bugliosi, the man who convicted Charlie Manson, turns his attention to the surprisingly similar psychopathology of George W. Bush in this how-to manual for putting the psycho killer of the millennium behind bars. Bugliosi's thesis is simple, and legally sound. Bush wound up hundreds of thousands of American soldiers and threw them helter... Read More-skelter at the innocent Iraqis, who responded in a foreseeable manner, by killing as many American soldiers as they could. Thus, he is guilty of murdering those American soldiers, and can be charged and convicted in every county throughout the 50 states from whence those American soldiers were seduced out of their homes and into uniform under false pretenses. THE PROSECUTION OF GEORGE W. BUSH FOR MURDER, http://www.naderlibrary.com/lit.bug.prosectoc.htm

Tara Carreon wrote at 6:37pm
October 14, 2008
Ralph practices politics as art. Federico Fellini practiced art as politics. Dip into a rich stew of cinematic imagery and dialogue at The Ralph Nader Library, where the webmistress has just posted an exquisite banquet of screencaps and screenplay transcripts for your delectation. Refresh yourselves from the toils of ideological battle with a swim in the aesthetic joys of a true political artist.
http://www.naderlibrary.com/fellinitoc.htm
-- A Quest for the Most Authentic Part of Oneself -- Autobiography of Federico Fellini, edited from "I'm a Big Liar," directed by Damian Pettigrew
-- Juliet of the Spirits, directed by Federico Fellini, starring Giulietta Masina
-- Satyricon, directed by Federico Fellini, starring Martin Potter, Hiram Keller and Max Born
-- Temptations of Dr. Antonio, directed by Federico Fellini, starring Anita Ekberg and -- Peppino De Felippo
-- And The Ship Sails On, directed by Federico Fellini -- Mouth of the Mountain Vignette
Wall-to-Wall

Tara Carreon wrote at 4:38pm
October 12, 2008
10/12/08, The Harder They Fall, the More I Smile, by John Schwartz
http://www.naderlibrary.com/bulletin_board/viewtopic.php?p=17319#17319
"THINGS are bad. Very, very bad....
How does all of this compounded badness make me feel? Not so bad, surprisingly ... I agree with Daniel Waterhouse, a character from the 17th century in “Quicksilver,” Neal ... Read MoreStephenson’s brilliant novel, who says that even though he is a knowledgeable “natural philosopher,” or scientist, he has given up on understanding money. “If money is a science,” he states, “then it is a dark science, darker than Alchemy.” "

Tara Carreon wrote at 10:58am
October 12, 2008
"Why every morning I wake up and tease my hair till it's big enough to hide a small rodent in, tell my knocked-up teenage daughter that a marriage by force is better than no marriage at all, have someone fired cause gosh darn, I don't like them very much and then go shoot a moose for supper."
Palin and McCain: Dressing for Joe Six-Pack
http://www... Read Morehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/karin-tanabe/palin-and-mccain-dressing_b_133880.html

Tara Carreon wrote at 10:52am
October 4, 2008
[Rep. Brad Sherman, D-California, 27th District, Sherman Oaks, Northridge] The only way they can pass this bill is by creating and sustaining a panic atmosphere. That atmosphere is not justified. Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday, that the sky would fall, the market would drop 2 or 3,000 ... Read Morepoints the first day, another couple of thousand the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no. That's what I call fear mongering. Proven wrong. We've got a week. We've got two weeks to write a good bill. The only way to pass a bad bill is to keep the panic pressure on.
http://www.naderlibrary.com/nader.videosshermanfearmongering.htm

Tara Carreon wrote at 10:48am
October 4, 2008
In response to my comments about a Ralph Nader / Ron Paul alliance, Terry Stegman accused me of taking drugs. This is highly rude and irrational behavior. Please ban her.
http://www.facebook.com/n/?minifeed.php&story_fbid=32916181422&id=1109836910

Tara Carreon wrote at 11:05am
September 29, 2008
All these autographed books and cookie recipes, etc., that vote nader promises to give you if you give money, I haven't even gotten a smidgen of what they promised me! And I'm like actually trying to put the books he likes up on a library. What's up with this? Do I actually have to order them from Amazon? Couldn't get the Arizona coordinator to... Read More give me the email address for Nader supporters in Tucson for anything in the world, even though she promised and I TRIED to give two house parties, and paid for advertising in the Tucson weekly for months. Too many broken promises doesn't look good for Nader. Though it's certainly not HIS fault!

Tara Carreon wrote at 10:28pm
September 28, 2008
WILD IN THE STREETS! Spark the Revolution -- A Nader / Paul Coalition.
http://www.naderlibrary.com/bulletin_board/viewtopic.php?t=687
http://www.naderlibrary.com/bulletin_board/index.php
AT THE RALPH NADER LIBRARY BULLETIN BOARD
SOUND OFF ABOUT RALPH'S CANDIDACY IN A PUBLIC FORUM -- The Ralph Nader Library Bulletin Board is up and ... Read Morerunning! We have just opened this forum to the public, and look forward to lots of intelligent discussion and brainstorming among Nader supporters. While you're there, browse the Nader Library to fuel your posts with progressive scholarship. Come sign up right away, and spread the word to your friends so we can get the buzz going.
Wall-to-Wall

Tara Carreon wrote at 9:26am
September 28, 2008
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/opinion/28rich.html?em
But even that wasn't the top political threat McCain faced last week. Bigger still was the mounting evidence of the seamless synergy between his campaign and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the mortgage monsters at the heart of the housing bust that set off our current calamity. Most of all, it was the fast-moving events on that front that precipitated his panic to roll out his diversionary, over-the-top theatrics on Wednesday.
What we were learning — through The New York Times, Newsweek and Roll Call — was ugly. Davis Manafort, the lobbying firm owned by McCain’s campaign manager, Rick Davis, had received $15,000 a month from Freddie Mac from late 2005 until last month. This was in addition to the $30,000 a month that Davis was paid from 2000 to 2005 by the so-called Homeownership Alliance, an advocacy organization that he headed and that was financed by Freddie and Fannie to fight regulation.
The McCain campaign tried to

Tara Carreon at 9:31am October 4
http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2005/05/67644
CIA: Take That, Cyberterrorism! 5/25/05, by WIRED Magazine
WASHINGTON -- The CIA is conducting a war game this week to simulate an unprecedented, Sept. 11-like electronic assault against the United States. The three-day exercise, known as "Silent Horizon," is meant to test the ability of ... Read Moregovernment and industry to respond to escalating internet ... Read Moredisruptions over many months, according to participants.
They spoke on condition of anonymity because the CIA asked them not to disclose details of the sensitive exercise taking place in Charlottesville, Virginia, about two hours southwest of Washington. Tara Carreon at 9:31am

Tara Carreon at 9:31am October 4
So, are you?

Tara Carreon at 9:44am September 28
September 28, 2008
THIS is more fun.
Fiath No More -- We Care a Lot!

Jump to Youtube Download Video

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about the NASA shuttle falling in the sea
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Tara Carreon wrote at 11:15am
September 27, 2008
Here's my response, Geraldine, to the Salon article, "Ralph Nader Loves John McCain." Unfortunately, Salon doesn't have a "comments" section, or I would have put this there:
Democrats WANT to lose. In that little dom / sub game they're playing with Republicans, they play the subs, which means they bend over and take it in the arse. That's the ... Read Morerole they played in their Skull & Bones initiation, and that's the role they play now. If they REALLY wanted to win in this election, WHY didn't Obama pick Hillary as his vice-president?
Geraldine Mckeon posted a link. 10:31am
Ralph Nader, John McCain | Salon
Source: www.salon.com
In 2004, Nader asked McCain to help his campaign -- and the senator rushed to his side. Is the consumer advocate now returning the favor?
my friends are giving me guff on this article,can you give me a comment on it?
Wall-to-Wall

Tara Carreon wrote at 10:28pm
September 26, 2008
From "Independent Politics," by Howard Hawkins: Could Nader Win?
"Furthermore, Nader's impact could be far greater than that of a potential spoiler for Kerry. The 2000 National Election Survey data show that only 9 percent of voters who preferred Nader actually voted for him. Fifty percent of Nader supporters didn't vote at all. Twenty-six ... Read Morepercent of Nader supporters voted for Gore as the lesser evil to Bush. And 19 percent of Nader supporters voted for Bush as the lesser evil to Gore.
If all the voters who preferred Nader had voted for him in 2000, he would have won the election, receiving 54 million votes to Bush's 43 million and Gore's 38 million (if we add the Nader supporters who voted for their lesser evil to Nader's total and subtract them from Bush and Gore's totals). (These numbers are derived from Harvard political scientist Barry Burden's 2001 study of the National Election Survey data: "Minor Parties in the 2000 Presidential Election") "

Tara Carreon wrote at 10:44am
September 26, 2008
What is the point of having all these principles if we're just going to be exiled in No Man's Land? If Ralph Nader can't create an alliance with a person like Ron Paul, then who can he create an alliance with? Let's blow their minds, and create a Ralph Nader/Ron Paul ticket. THERE'S NO TIME TO WASTE! LET'S DO IT NOW! We have to get into the debates.
THE RALPH NADER LIBRARY BULLETIN BOARD
http://www.naderlibrary.com/bulletin_board/index.php

Tara Carreon wrote at 10:16am
September 26, 2008
I know this is an outrageous idea, but why doesn't Ralph Nader hook up with Ron Paul as his Vice-President to get enough numbers in the polls in order to get into the debates? Just how much more time on this planet do we have to get __cked around by the elite?

Tara Carreon at 10:13am September 26
That is the WEIRDEST thing I've ever seen. A sexy, skinny girl for Obama, and then Ralph Nader? Who comes up with these ideas?
SOUND OFF ABOUT RALPH'S CANDIDACY IN A PUBLIC FORUM -- The Ralph Nader Library Bulletin Board is up and running! We have just opened this forum to the public, and look forward to lots of intelligent discussion and ... Read Morebrainstorm... Read Moreing among Nader supporters. While you're there, browse the Nader Library to fuel your posts with progressive scholarship. Come sign up right away, and spread the word to your friends so we can get the buzz going.
http://naderlibrary.com/bulletin_board/

Tara Carreon at 2:37pm September 26
I TOTALLY don't get it. Why can't they put Ralph Nader next to someone who is equally intelligent? Why does he have to compete against a naive, young, stupid girl?

Tara Carreon at 3:01pm September 26
It makes him look meaningless. Sometimes I think that people who supposedly work for Nader are actually AGAINST Nader. Take his former Nader's Raiders who turned against him as a case in point. This would be another good example. Nader is totally powerless in this situation. What is he supposed to do, beat up on a little girl? What important ... Read Morepoints is he able to make here? He's reduced to talking about meaningless things like whose side of the desk who's People magazine is on! This is a TERRIBLE idea.

Tara Carreon at 5:02pm September 26
When anyone says "trust me," it makes me shiver all over. Like I'm looking straight in the face of a fascist. Is that the way YOU want to look? How does Ralph Nader "look good"? Like that People magazine in mint condition? Is that a bad joke? WHY should he show his goofy side? Anyway, it's not goofy, simply dumb!

Tara Carreon at 8:16pm September 27
Editorial
Trust Me
Published: September 22, 2008
New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/23/opinion/23tue1.html
TRUST ME PHOTO:
http://www.new.facebook.com/photo.php?id=1433342838&pid=76363&cp=1433342838&cps=974de58244

Tara Carreon wrote at 4:11pm
September 25, 2008
SOUND OFF ABOUT RALPH'S CANDIDACY IN A PUBLIC FORUM -- The Ralph Nader Library Bulletin Board is up and running! We have just opened this forum to the public, and look forward to lots of intelligent discussion and brainstorming among Nader supporters. While you're there, browse the Nader Library to fuel your posts with progressive scholarship. ... Read MoreCome sign up right away, and spread the word to your friends so we can get the buzz going.
http://naderlibrary.com/bulletin_board/

Tara Carreon · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:38 am Post subject:

Then I find out that Terry Stegman, one of the girls who first attacked me and said I was on drugs, hasn't even committed to vote for Ralph Nader!

Terry Stegman wrote at 4:04am
October 26, 2008
Happy trails! Now I have to make up my mind. I think I will be deciding in the voting booth.

Tara Carreon · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:47 am Post subject:

Responses I got on proposing a Nader / Ron Paul ticket:

Tara Carreon at 9:30am September 28
So what about that Nader/Ron Paul ticket I've been talking about? Not one comment from anyone here. Is everyone dead? What better way to support Ralph Nader than to help him actually WIN? Or don't we care about winning?

Chris Mills at 9:39am September 28
Winning isn't everything. Ron Paul and Ralph Nader have very different policies concerning regulation of business, government involvement in issues, and race issues.

Chris Mills at 9:40am September 28
AND YESSS!

Sasha Hasanbegovic at 11:29am September 28
Nader & Ron Paul together on a ticket just doesn't make any sense. Do you even know their political ideologies?

Chris Mills at 11:29am September 28
exactly

Terry Stegman at 12:05pm September 28
I pledged on this site, even though I have a huge problem with Ron Paul! I don't want my name associated with his-I think he fosters racism, anarchy, and just plain hatred. There is a north/south highway (Rt. 29), running from Charlottesville, VA toward DC, which I have been driving daily since August 2006. Last spring, I had dubbed it the "Ron Paul Expressway." Travel it sometime and find out why.
This is how much I want to see Nader in a debate!!!
Does it really take this?

Tara Carreon at 7:46pm September 28
Don't be insulting! Ralph Nader and Ron Paul agree on four very important issues: (1) foreign policy, get out of Iraq, stop being imperialistic, (2) privacy, repeal the Patriot Act, revision of FISA, military commissions act, get rid of torture, (3) national debt, no deficit spending, and (4) federal reserve out of control. If they accomplished NOTHING else but these four issues, we would all be a helluva lot better off. I'm sure they could compromise very nicely on all the other issues. These issues are simply MORE important than any other issues, except universal health care, but with Nader as the President, and Ron Paul as the Vice-President, Nader would get his way on. Winning IS the most important thing right now, as far as I'm concerned, and NOT caring about winning is the very reason people diss Ralph Nader and decide NOT to vote for him, because he doesn't look serious about winning. This is a crappy attitude to have when people like me are giving lots of money to Ralph

Terry Stegman at 6:50pm September 30
Yes, these are the four issues that the coalition effort are built around. That does not mean that the two men would "compromise" on other differences which are very fundamental. Nader's whole career has been built on establishing consumer protection through government agencies. Paul is very much against government influence and guidance. Forming a coalition does not lead to a complete change in philosophies.
Check out the CNN interview and then read more about both
individuals. I do not support Ron Paul for my above reasons and I do not plan on changing my philosophy either.
Any hope of a "compromise" on other issues (oh gee, all the other issues) would be very futile and probably not very "nice." (Thank God!)

Terry Stegman at 6:58pm September 30
Did you check with Mr. Gonzalez before you booted him off the island?
Yeah, that's loyalty. Oh, sorry. I'm still debating and everyone's gone to sleep.

Tara Carreon at 12:01pm October 3
That is so foolish, because it fails to recognize the fact that if you actually accomplish tthose four goals, that you would be living in a world so different that you wouldn't even need government regulation. That would be a completely different world, and I would so much rather move there and have less government regulation -- I would rather have an approchemant. "Regulation" is a bugaboo, they have turned into enablers. The EPA is constantly in conflict with local government, refuses to regulate carbon and stands in the way of California trying to do so.
Mr. Gonzales doesn't matter. That's not even worth talking about.

Terry Stegman at 1:41pm October 3
Enjoy your mushrooms.

Tara Carreon at 9:18am October 4
Listen, you little snot! Sit around and wait for your utopia if you like. I'm sick of your "I'm smarter than you, do you know anything attitude, start here to learn" bullshit. You're just a silly young girl, highly insulting with your drug accusations, go f__k yourself!

Tara Carreon at 9:31am October 4
http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2005/05/67644
CIA: Take That, Cyberterrorism! 5/25/05, by WIRED Magazine
WASHINGTON -- The CIA is conducting a war game this week to simulate an unprecedented, Sept. 11-like electronic assault against the United States. The three-day exercise, known as "Silent Horizon," is meant to test the ability of ... Read Moregovernment and industry to respond to escalating internet ... Read Moredisruptions over many months, according to participants.
They spoke on condition of anonymity because the CIA asked them not to disclose details of the sensitive exercise taking place in Charlottesville, Virginia, about two hours southwest of Washington.

Tara Carreon at 9:31am October 4
So, are you?

Tara Carreon · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:53 am Post subject:

Georgina Gozum erased all of her comments here about Obama Girl. Ironically enough, she wrote to me personally and about the Nader / Ron Paul ticket she said "Ralph Nader + Ron Paul would be the Dream Team! Smile

" I asked her why she didn't post this response publically, and she said "I will post that response publicly. I wanted to respond to your wall post but there was no room for a comment, so I will as my own individual wall post on Ralph's page. Thanks!" But then she never did.

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Ralph YOUTUBE: The OBAMA GIRL and RALPH NADER Show!: Obama Girl and Ralph Nader are sharing an office.. http://tinyurl.com/3e8myp.via Twitter - 8:06pm - 12 comments

Sean Dolat at 1:56am September 26
awesome ralph

Beatriz Unreasonable de Luna at 4:45am September 26
I like that Ralph brings his hallmark integrity to "media saavy".

Daryl Unreasonable Ducharme at 6:00am September 26
Between this, red state update and triumph the insult comic I don't think anybody can say Ralph Nader doesn't have a sense of humor. He makes fun of himself so well.

Richard Phillips at 6:25am September 26
Awesome job. We should all post the vid to get it more exposure.

Tara Carreon at 10:13am September 26
That is the WEIRDEST thing I've ever seen. A sexy, skinny girl for Obama, and then Ralph Nader? Who comes up with these ideas?
SOUND OFF ABOUT RALPH'S CANDIDACY IN A PUBLIC FORUM -- The Ralph Nader Library Bulletin Board is up and running! We have just opened this forum to the public, and look forward to lots of intelligent discussion and ... Read Morebrainstorm... Read Moreing among Nader supporters. While you're there, browse the Nader Library to fuel your posts with progressive scholarship. Come sign up right away, and spread the word to your friends so we can get the buzz going.
http://naderlibrary.com/bulletin_board/

Tara Carreon at 2:37pm September 26
I TOTALLY don't get it. Why can't they put Ralph Nader next to someone who is equally intelligent? Why does he have to compete against a naive, young, stupid girl?

Tara Carreon at 3:01pm September 26
It makes him look meaningless. Sometimes I think that people who supposedly work for Nader are actually AGAINST Nader. Take his former Nader's Raiders who turned against him as a case in point. This would be another good example. Nader is totally powerless in this situation. What is he supposed to do, beat up on a little girl? What important .repoints is he able to make here? He's reduced to talking about meaningless things like whose side of the desk who's People magazine is on! This is a TERRIBLE idea.

Tara Carreon at 5:02pm September 26
When anyone says "trust me," it makes me shiver all over. Like I'm looking straight in the face of a fascist. Is that the way YOU want to look? How does Ralph Nader "look good"? Like that People magazine in mint condition? Is that a bad joke? WHY should he show his goofy side? Anyway, it's not goofy, simply dumb!

Andrew Reesor-Taylor at 10:02pm September 26
When anyone says "trust me," it makes me shiver all over. Okay "TRUST ME" tee hee... Did you get the shivers?

Tara Carreon at 11:20pm September 26
No.

Andrew Reesor-Taylor at 12:47pm September 27
Thanks Georgina, I figured it was a semi-funny comment in this neverending political saga. Instead of "The Canterbury Tales" of Chaucer we have "The Obama Tales" of Corporate America...

Tara Carreon at 8:16pm September 27
Editorial
Trust Me
Published: September 22, 2008
New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/23/opinion/23tue1.html
TRUST ME PHOTO:
http://www.new.facebook.com/photo.php?id=1433342838&pid=76363&cp=1433342838&cps=974de58244

Tara Carreon · Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:26 am Post subject:

I see this apology for the first time from Terry Stegman:

Terry Stegman wrote at 4:41pm
October 4, 2008
I publicly apologize for my "mushroom" comment. As a believer in Facebook regulation, I will be more careful in the future.