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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And how about our good friend Leo Strauss? He was Jewish, so he was obviously not "anti-semitic," but he also hated Jews. So what's that all about? It's about status, power, politics and religion. And the same kind of people run Israel, notably on the Mussolini model. http://www.naderlibrary.com/democ.projdemocprogfascistcorportarpley.htm, No wonder it's so fooked up!

http://www.naderlibrary.com/lit.leostrausscelebratepagan.htm

Alan Gilbert wrote:
In 1923, Strauss named his initial Zionism revealingly a “pagan-fascism.” In Breslau, he belonged to a reactionary Jewish youth group Juedischer Wanderbund Blau-Weiss [“Blue-White”], modeled on the German Wandervogel groups which, however, excluded Jews.

These were groups of German young people with nationalist sentiments, who hiked together in the mountains. Blau-Weiss was even more militaristic. Strauss supported Blau-Weiss’s leader, Walter Moses, who imitated Mussolini (the latter had come to power in Italy in 1922). He sought to shape Blau-Weiss into an army (many of its members had not served in World War I, and liked the militarism). (Leo Strauss, The Early Writings, 1921-32 trans. and ed. Michael Zank, p. 73, n. 9). Strauss came to his authoritarianism young. As an authoritarian clique with a head, many Straussians replicate Strauss's odd affection.

Earlier in the same year, a Frankfurt Zionist group which had planned to merge with Blau-Weiss, had called for a revivification of Jewish culture and a gradual separation of Jewish culture from German. They criticized Blau-Weiss for its coolness, not to say hostility to Jewish culture....

Blau-Weiss had also been charged by the Frankfurters with unbelief as well as being “half-Fascist” (an understatement by Scholem at the time),...

A majority of Blau-Weiss soon dismissed the “Bible as worthless.”...

As he wrote in 1934 to his friend Jacob Klein, if the two returned to the Middle Ages, to the ghetto, they would go to the synagogue “with a decisive reservation,” that is, as philosophers or atheists....

Strauss preferred the ghetto or the return to an imagined stone age after nuclear war to the deteriorated rule of the Prophets....

The followers of Blau-Weiss saw themselves as Germans, that is, without any residue of Jewishness other than a – for them – negative political identity....

Against any explicit Jewish identity, Strauss (and others) tried to assimilate....

Strauss affected being a German so thoroughly that he convinced himself to be for the National Revolution and horrified the German-Jewish intellectual proletariat in Paris. He quickly saw the affectations in others. To the wall of German hostility toward Jews, he formed a poseur identity, and refused to see the same incoherence and affectedness in himself.....

Far from being an “apolitical” philosopher as the Zuckerts and Fukuyama, inter alia, tell themselves, Strauss was a power-politician from the beginning and to the core. His later scholarly writing is shaped by this care (Heidegger) or ultimate concern (Tillich). In his “Prefatory Remarks,” Strauss says:

‘The term ‘Breslau’ refers to the German-Jewish and power-politics-oriented wing of Blau-Weiss, which in recent months, attained a leading position in Blau-Weiss.”

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.naderlibrary.com/lit.sevensermonsjung.htm
Carl Jung wrote:
Abraxas is the sun, and at the same time the eternally sucking gorge of the void, the belittling and dismembering devil.
What the god-sun speaketh is life.
What the devil speaketh is death.
But Abraxas speaketh that hallowed and accursed word which is life and death at the same time.
Abraxas begetteth truth and lying, good and evil, light and darkness, in the same word and in the same act. Wherefore is Abraxas terrible.
It is splendid as the lion in the instant he striketh down his victim. It is beautiful as a day of spring. It is the great Pan himself and also the small one. It is Priapos.
It is the monster of the under-world, a thousand-armed polyp, coiled knot of winged serpents, frenzy.
It is the hermaphrodite of the earliest beginning.
It is the lord of the toads and frogs, which live in the water and go up on the land, whose chorus ascendeth at noon and at midnight.
It is abundance that seeketh union with emptiness.
It is holy begetting.
It is love and love’s murder.
It is the saint and his betrayer.
It is the brightest light of day and the darkest night of madness.
To look upon it, is blindness.
To know it, is sickness.
To worship it, is death.
To fear it, is wisdom.
To resist it not, is redemption.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's get two things clear about gnosticism, since the lies about them are told over and over and over again: (1) that gnosticism is NOT a world-and-self-hating religion, and (2) that the gnostic God is kinder and gentler than the Christian God.

On the first point, is the Pistis Sophia a core gnostic text or not? Yes, it is, even though a new trend seems to be going towards ignoring the Pistis Sophia as a core gnostic text, probably because it makes perfectly clear that classical gnosticism IS a world-and-self-hating relgion:


http://www.naderlibrary.com/lit.pistissophia.toc.htm

Pistis Sophia wrote:
"The first [mystery of the First Mystery], -- if thou accomplishest its mystery altogether and standest and accomplishest it finely in all its figures, then dost thou come straightway out of thy body, become a great light-stream and pass through all the regions of the rulers and all the regions of the Light, while all are in fear of that soul, until it cometh to the region of its kingdom....

"And if they bring him before the Virgin of Light, then the Virgin of Light will see the sign of the mystery of the kingdom of the Ineffable which is with him; the Virgin of Light marvelleth and proveth him, but suffereth them not to bring him to the Light, until he accomplisheth the total citizenship of the light of that mystery, that is the purities of the renunciation of the world and also of the total matter therein....

"Ye then in particular are the refuse of the Treasury and ye are the refuse of the region of the Right and ye are the refuse of the region of those of the Midst and ye are the refuse of all the invisibles and of all the rulers; in a word, ye are the refuse of all these. And ye are in great sufferings and great afflictions in your being poured from one into another of different kinds of bodies of the world. And after all these sufferings ye have struggled of yourselves and fought, having renounced the whole world and all the matter therein; and ye have not left off seeking, until ye found all the mysteries of the kingdom of the Light, which have purified you and made you into refined light, exceedingly purified, and ye have become purified light.

"For this cause have I said unto you aforetime: 'Seek, that ye may find.' I have, therefore, said unto you: Ye are to seek after the mysteries of the Light, which purify the body of matter and make it into refined light exceedingly purified....

"Amēn, I say unto you: For the sake of the race of men, because it is material, I have torn myself asunder and brought unto them all the mysteries of the Light, that I may purify them, for they are the refuse of the whole matter of their matter; else would no soul of the total race of men have been saved, and they would not be able to inherit the kingdom of the Light, if I had not brought unto them the purifying mysteries....

"For this cause, therefore, herald to the whole race of men, saying: Cease not to seek day and night, until ye find the purifying mysteries; and say unto the race of men: Renounce the whole world and the whole matter therein. For he who buyeth and selleth in the world and he who eateth and drinketh of its matter and who liveth in all its cares and in all its associations, amasseth other additional matters to the rest of his matter, because this whole world and all therein and all its associations are material refuse [pl.], and they will make enquiry of every one concerning his purity.

"For this cause, therefore, I have said unto you aforetime: Renounce the whole world and the whole matter therein, that ye may not amass other additional matter to the rest of your matter in you. For this cause, therefore, herald it to the whole race of men, saying: Renounce the whole world and all its associations, that ye may not amass additional matter to the rest of your matter in you; and say unto them: Cease not to seek day and night and remit not yourselves until ye find the purifying mysteries which will purify you and make you into a refined light, so that ye will go on high and inherit the light of my kingdom.


On the second point, that the gnostic "God" is kinder and gentler, "The Apocryphon of John," which everyone admits is a core gnostic text, makes it clear that his God is exactly as bad as the Christian God:

http://www.naderlibrary.com/lit.apocryphonofjohnwisse.htm

Apocryphon of John wrote:
And I said, "Lord, what about those who understood and yet turned away? Where will their souls go?"

Then he said to me, "They will be admitted into that place where the angels of poverty go, the place where repentance does not occur. And they will guard them until that day when those who have blasphemed against the Spirit will be tortured. And they will be punished with an eternal punishment."


Just like gravity is proven by a ball rolling to the lowest point, so is gnosticism proved by these negative references. So let's be done with these issues.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fascist philosophers love to trap you in Latin, Hebrew, and lots of weird pictures. Before you know it, you're a saber-toothed tiger stuck in the La Brea tarpits that looks like some weird squiggle.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a long time, gnostics have gotten away with the argument that because the Judaic God is bad, they are good. And when you ask them, "Well, what are YOU?" they duck and say, they aren't anything, they are just a loosely organized group of thoughts, like al Qaeda. Now there's a fitting metaphor for them.
http://www.naderlibrary.com/lit.johnsonamosqueinmunich.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just came across this argument over at Conspiracy Planet, written by John Lamb Lash (what an appropriate name for a gnostic, all Opus Dei!):


Joseph P. Szimhart, Opus Dei wrote:
Allen quotes Escrivá from his writings in The Way (227): “If you realize that your body is your enemy, and an enemy of God’s glory since it is an enemy of your sanctification, why do you treat it so softly?” In The Forge, by Escrivá, he states: “What has been lost through the flesh, the flesh should pay back: be generous in your penance.” Although members will dispute it, in this latter regard, Opus Dei falls into the radical dualism of the Gnostic cults that denigrate the corporeal self in favor of a spiritualized self.


John Lamb Lash wrote:
In December, 2006, I contributed a short addition to the Wikipedia article on Gnosticism. My intention was to alert readers to the long-standing disinformation around this controversial subject, using a simple metaphor: the label does not match the contents.Most of all, I wanted to show that the anti-cosmic or world-hating attitude attributed to Gnostics is inconsistent with the textual evidence, especially as concerns the role of the goddess Sophia embodied in the earth.

How could Gnostics have hated the material world when they saw it as the metamorphosed form of their supreme divinity?


Metamorphosed into evil, into the mother of the demiurge: the big, bad God Jehovah. Plus, they tortured Sophia throughout the entire book of the Pistis Sophia, so how are we to see her as an object of reverence, other than being revered as a female sacrifice for gnostic sadists?
http://www.naderlibrary.com/lit.pistissophia.toc.htm

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about this for a little anthropognosis on Carl Jung's part (no pun intended). This picture is from Carl Jung's "Red Book" that I'm putting up here: http://www.naderlibrary.com/redbookjung.toc.htm

Carl Jung, The Red Book wrote:
If you give up your self, you live it in others; thereby you become selfish to others, and thus you deceive others. Everyone thus believes that such a life is possible. It is, however, only apish imitation. Through giving in to your apish appetite, you infect others, because the ape stimulates the apish. So you turn yourself and others into apes. Through reciprocal imitation you live according to the average expectation. The image of the hero was set up for all in every age through the appetite for imitation. Therefore the hero was murdered, since we have all been aping him. Do you know why you cannot abandon apishness? For fear of loneliness and defeat....

I scratch my head: is this not some hellish banality ? Word for word, pulp fiction from the lending library! Oh you Gods, where have you led me? It's enough to make one laugh, it's enough to make one weep-to be a beautiful sufferer, a tragic shattered person is difficult, but to become an ape, you beautiful and great ones? To you the banal and eternally ridiculous, the unutterably hackneyed and emptied out, is never set like a gift of Heaven in uplifted praying hands.




(enlarged version here: http://www.naderlibrary.com/bookred.169a.gif)

Dr. Jorg Lanz von Liebenfels wrote:
ANTHROPOGNOSIS -- THE KNOWLEDGE OF MAN

In our search for God we neophytes have lost our way because we have forgotten the basic principle of all wisdom of the ancients, and because we have forgotten the goal and the beginning of all investigation: the human body. Hippolytus (Refutatio, 133) says this beautifully: ''The beginning of spiritual maturity is the knowledge of humanity, the knowledge of God is perfected (spiritual) maturity." So then we are searching for God by following the advice of the ancients -- along anthropological lines!

The second most peculiar creation, besides man, is the ape. The ancients knew this all too well. Full of bitterness Ennius calls out: "O ape, you abominable monster, how similar you are to us men!" (Cicero, De nat. dor. 1,35.) The ancient beast-men Behemoth and Leviathan are called the "first fruits" of the ways of God" in Job XL.19. That there were, at one time, beast-men is not to be doubted after the discoveries of the Pithecanthropus, Dubois, the Neanderthal, Spyer, Krapinesian skull fragments and countless discoveries of stone tools. It is probable that these beast-men have not yet fully disappeared. It is striking that the most ape-like men and the most man-like apes live so close to one another. This is especially true in central Africa. Fig. 5 shows a Wambutti with a chimpanzee-like facial structure. Recently, in New Guinea, an almost animalistic type of people were discovered.

http://www.naderlibrary.com/cult.theozoology.htm

P.S. How could there be ZERO entries on Google for "anthropognosis"? The word exists in at least one place on the Internet, and that is in von Liebenfels' "Theozoology" right here on my site. See? -- Google is censoring our data.

Or maybe its a SPECIAL exception Google is making for it's friends, obviously some GNOSIS people who don't want anyone knowing that they are ANTHROPO-ers.

And also, there are NO dictionary entries for "anthropoers"!!! What the heck is going on? As if those anthropoers didn't even exist! Oh, right -- Google decides who exists and who doesn't, even though they do. They are gods, of a type, you gotta admit.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was watching Leni Riefenstahl's movie "Olympics" and I saw Germans doing Rudolf Steiner's Eurythmy. So I ordered Leni's "Olympics" book. Of course the question for everyone during Hitler's time, is "What were you doing then?" At Wikipedia, it says Steiner's Eurythmy movement was closed for business during the Nazi era. You hear that so much from cultists who don't want to be associated with Hitler: they were closed. So the question is, "You were closed, but the Nazis did your dances anyway?" Yes, I know, Eurythmy was really popular throughout Europe at the time. But did Steiner protest against that? You know, like rock stars protest when the military uses their music to kill people in the middle east?


big picture here: http://www.naderlibrary.com/bookred.385.gif
Leni Riefenstahl, "Schonheit Im Olympischen Kampf"
"Eurythmics," page 30

One supposedly critical, intelligent, well-meaning, woman with a heart -- Floris Schreve who wrote "A Bridge too Far? Neo-Nazi elements sold as Anthroposophy" -- argues that yes, Rudolf Steiner made deplorable racist remarks that should be severely condemned, BUT they weren't of the National Socialist type. And yes, his Aryan philosophy looks exactly like the Nazi aryan philosophy, BUT actually it was different. And yes, all of these present-day anthroposophists promoting a Nazi viewpoint should be strongly condemned, BECAUSE if nobody SAYS Steiner is a Nazi, he isn't. And she discusses a lot of other interesting arguments, like Steiner's racism isn't really racist because it's about religion, not history. And talking about the inferior Black, Indian and Jewish races having to die out, and make way for the European Aryan, is not racist, it's "karmic necessity." And criticizing someone's race doesn't count, if they don't criticize your "essence." And .5 percent racism in Steiner's humongous oeuvre is no racism at all. And everyone was a racist during Steiner's time, so there's no fault. And racism existed before the Nazis, so it doesn't belong to National Socialism. And you're not allowed to take any of Steiner's comments "out of context," but must consider them within the entire whole of anthroposophy, where of course, there is no blame.

When four women accused Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain of sexual abuse, and he replied: "But look at all the people who can say I never did anything to them?", he was laughed off the stage.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Gnostics are syncretists. All the madness in the world -- they want it all. Why? Because they hate life and want to destroy the natural process of human evolution. Their nature-loving rhetoric is nothing but a lie, one of their opposites side-by-side with their nature-hating rhetoric, argued always against large categories, and never in specifics (nature defies large categories and screw their Unified Theory of Everything -- they must have their monotheism). They want to make us all stupid and crazy. And look at how they have succeeded. Have humans ever been as stupid as they are now? We don't live to survive -- we live to die, "believing" that death IS life. Religion is anti-evolutionary. And then some of them have the nerve to say they are atheists. Gnostics do nothing but lie. They are liars extraordinaire. If only people could speak the truth. But look at how afraid they are -- they wouldn't dare! They are already subjected to death. They're like the gazelle in the lion's mouth; they stopped struggling a long time ago. And subjected to the lies of their own religion. It would be just too hypocritical to cry out against the lies of others when you are steeped in them yourself.

Yes, death sucks, so why do you want more of it? Yes, nature inhibits us, so why do you want to disable us completely? Yes, humans are different than animals, so why don't we distinguish ourselves? The animals live their own lives, some better than others. Some even distinguish themselves by eating only grass, and never killing. And we humans could do the same. We could make a paradise on earth for ourselves, separate and apart from the life of any animal subject to nature. We could never get rid of death and sickness altogether, but we could get rid of war and murder and rape and child abuse and slavery and pollution. Yes, this is not the most optimum universe we can conceive of, but maybe if we move towards a rational ideal -- right here and now -- this universe could turn into a universe without death, due to our own WILL to evolution, or you could say, the CHOICES we make, which I conclude from the numerous evidence is the real driving force of evolution, not natural selection, as Darwin nihilistically postulated. Why can't we see evolution as the cumulative expression of zillions of self-directed minds moving towards their own goal, life itself as the cause, NOT the effect of an insensate environment? And based on this understanding, recognize the power of each individual and species to guide its own evolution? I don't believe that we are helpless and subject to the overwhelming power of nature. Bullshit. Or that we need to overpower nature. We just need to worry about our own lives as usual, and stop looking for some secondary effect, some magical bouncing back of benefit once we "control" nature. Our "control" of nature just ruins it and prevents us from getting what we need from it, like clean air and water. That kind of thinking is just fascist politics wrapped in religious and scientific covers. But we've been conditioned to accept the nihilistic approach, so as things stand now, we have the mindset of a very spoiled medieval prince -- 13 years old -- who doesn't like his zillion-dollar toy because it has a few defects, and so throws it in the garbage in a petulant fit. He's going to go to his laboratory and create a homonculus!
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We often hear of this idea of people wanting to suffer along with God and Jesus, which usually translates to secretly nailing yourself to a cross with the help of your fellow cultists, beating yourself with a whip, or making your leg bloody with a celice. And then there's fasting and probably all kinds of other self-mutiliation that I'm not aware of. And the idea is, THEY CAN TAKE THE PAIN. And the pleasure, I might add, especially when the "pain" is punishing the body by having sex with members of your cult because you think the body is evil. But is this really bravery or cowardice in not wanting to face the REAL pain of existence, and the pain of our fellow human beings? And thinking of the pain of yourself and others, immediately you might think, "Maybe it is better to forget ... maybe we should spend all our time learning how to forget our pain." And that's when you see the cowardice that both flees from real pain, and invents unnecessary pain to avoid the real pain that torments us all. So what -- you wear a celice. Big fooking deal, you hurt your leg day in and day out. Lots of people have hurt legs. Plus, you did it to yourself. Sane people look for health, not for harm. We should put these people into insane asylums with all the other poor, unfortunate crazies, except then almost EVERYONE would be in an insane asylum. At least they wouldn't go around thinking they were sane. Anyway, that's nothing compared to having your heart wrecked by seeing another suffering human being. No one can take that shit for one minute. And I'm not talking about Jesus Christ, who we don't even know if he was real. Certainly, nothing else in the Bible is, so I don't know why Jesus should be real, either. And his giant ourorbos back to the God of the Old Testament didn't help any of us out. Who has the guts to look at the dark side of our world? And I'm not talking about the devil, but about murder, starvation, etc.. If we had the guts to look, then maybe we'd have the guts to fix the problem. We haven't even begun to right the wrongs of this world. As far as I can see, it's zero steps forward, and ten steps backwards every single day. Our social life is a tragedy. Not even animals are this stupid.
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