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Maybe I'm a spinning top, too.
I guess it's embarassing, "egotistical," to conceive of oneself as a whole being.
Communism DEMANDS that we visualize ourselves as broken pieces who find unity in the group. |
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DON'T FORGET TO HATE
DON'T FORGET TO HATE |
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When someone asks me where I live, I say, "I live in an arroyo, I live in a flower." |
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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There's some weird shit going on with the Jared Lee Loughner case. Obviously, the judge is in a conspiracy with the Federal Government to give them their show trial and deliver a passive and quiet defendant, if that's what they're really up to; otherwise, he'd just judge the guy crazy, send him to a mental hospital, and postpone the trial until and if he ever becomes sane. They seem to want to shut him up and have a trial and convict him, probably with the death penalty. What are they afraid he'll say? What kind of chutzpah do two prison doctors have to "override" a 9th Circuit decision telling them to stop forcing medication on Jared Loughner? And why does the second appeal go to a Circuit court with Jay Bybee on it http://www.naderlibrary.com/911.green.bybee.6802.htm / http://www.naderlibrary.com/torture.2bybeememoaug12002.htm, who then, being such a passionate advocate of torture, says, "Of course it's okay to medicate prisoners against their will." It's hard to know what's going on here. The effect is one of shutting Jared Loughner up, though. Some people say that increases his competence to stand trial, others say it decreases it. Well, we'll know he became MORE competent if he argues that he was crazy then, but he's not crazy now, and he's really sorry he did such a stupid thing. But that wouldn't work for the government because they want to convict him. So they'll want to say that the drugs made him competent to stand trial and be convicted, but not sane enough to argue that he's better now, and was crazy then. Or else they'll say he's sane now, and he was sane then, not crazy. But then, why the need to give him anti-psychotic medication? Oh, that he was insane in the interim? That the shooting catapulted him into a state of insanity which needed to be treated with drugs? And that with treatment, he returned to his regular state of being a sociopath, the very state of mind that motivated him to kill in the first place?
I like it. Although I would argue that Jared Loughner is not intelligent enough to be a killer sociopath.
But I'm worried he's going to forget things, that he's not allowed to say things that he knows are true, that we need to hear, because there are so many questions we need him to answer.
Like, for example, if the Homeland Security memo -- which is confirmed as saying he was part of the American Renaissance group, a nazi group with ties to the British National Party -- was actually telling the truth in the first instance and didn't contain inaccurate information as later recanted -- usually the FIRST thing that comes out in the news is the most true, not the second, recanted version -- then there's something very interesting going on with Jared Lee Loughner that smells of conspiracy beyond the desire to have a show trial at any cost. But with Jay Bybee involved, the judge on the government's side to force medication down his throat or in his veins, and doctors telling the 9th Circuit to go fuck themselves, it already looks like a conspiracy beyond the desire for a show trial.
As far as the possible British connection goes, I've noticed a similar conservative British interest in the Matt Inman case.
This Jared Loughner thing reminds me of the finagling that went on between the Canadian Postmaster General and the generals in Canada and Britain to let Trotsky go, so he could get on with his revolution in Russia. Except this time, they want to send a message that anyone who attacks a politician WILL BE SUBJECTED TO THE POWER OF THE STATE, and have all of his rights taken away from him. His Will will NOT be respected. He's not a person with rights, he's a nobody, a piece of shit along with what the Constitution has become. They want a show trial for fascism.
Which is the way the people who run our government work ALL our political issues. If we want something good, that means we're going to get something bad. They use every issue that cries out for resolution to shove something bad down our throat. Like Obamacare. They're like, "You want health insurance? Okay, we'll give you fascist Obamacare." Here, they're like, "You want justice for Gabrielle Giffords and all the people who got killed? Okay, we'll give you Jay Bybee and the overthrow of what's left of the Constitution."
http://www.naderlibrary.com/cia.wallstreetbolshevik.ch2.htm.
| Los Angeles Times wrote: | Forced medication of Jared Lee Loughner OK'd by court
March 05, 2012|By Carol J. Williams
Reporting from Los Angeles — Tucson shooting suspect Jared Lee Loughner can be forcibly medicated with antipsychotic drugs, a federal appeals court ruled Monday.
In a 2-1 ruling, the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals said prison authorities have the right to treat an inmate who would otherwise be a danger to himself or others around him.
Loughner, 23, has been charged with 49 felony counts in the Jan. 8, 2011, shooting rampage outside of a Tucson supermarket in which six people were killed and 13 others injured, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. The congresswoman was holding a meet-the-public event when the shooter attacked.
Loughner’s defense attorneys had objected to his being forcibly treated with antipsychotic drugs. They argued that because he is a pretrial detainee who has not been convicted of any crime that he has the right to refuse medication that he believes could harm or kill him.
The appeals court panel said the issue of pretrial rights versus those of the convicted didn’t need to be addressed in Loughner’s case because his erratic and violent behavior during his now-yearlong stay at a federal prison hospital in Missouri was enough to justify treating him against his will.
Loughner was committed to the federal prison hospital in May after a four-month evaluation period that led to his being diagnosed with schizophrenia.
U.S. District Judge Larry A. Burns of San Diego has twice extended Loughner’s commitment to the Missouri prison hospital and authorized treatment aimed at restoring his mental competency so that he can stand trial. The judge last month agreed with the government lawyers seeking to prosecute Loughner that he has made significant progress but remains unfit to participate in court proceedings.
The appeals court also rejected Loughner’s contention that he was entitled to have legal representation during the prison hospital hearing a year ago when his mental competency was decided.
The panel ruling split between two appointees of Republican presidents, J. Clifford Wallace and Jay S. Bybee, and a Democratic appointee, Marsha S. Berzon.
Another 9th Circuit panel had temporarily suspended Loughner’s forced medication last year after his attorneys initially objected. The prison doctors overrode that decision two weeks later, however, citing emergency circumstances that needed to be addressed to ensure the safety of the prisoner and hospital staff treating him. |
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Message to all you Nazi Nihilists: If people didn't exist, then you wouldn't need to kill them. The fact that you kill them proves that you KNOW they DO exist. Of course, I know you are a bunch of liars. But you even lie to yourselves. |
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Charles Carreon wrote: | Nihilists Must DIE!
by Charles Carreon
Nihilist killers show
A lack of faith
If we're all dead already
Why waste the ammunition?
Just let nature do its work
And claim victims by attrition.
If you're just killing shadows
What's the rush?
We're standing on the ledge
And we don't need a push
We'll go in our own time
And why don't you join us?
Nihilist killers show
A lack of faith
Their doctrine needs amending
There's no use pretending
They're petty fascist motherfuckers
Trying to look cool
And oh, Nihilist Killers?
Fuck OFF! |
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Charles Carreon wrote: | Black Hole Drill Bits
by Charles Carreon
All shavings go into the bit!
No cleanup!
Hey, hoh, look at my new project!
Neat. Where's all the sawdust?
It's inside the drill bit!
Oh, wow, I never knew black holes could be so useful!
Yeah, we should get the black hole toaster!
And the black hole vacuum cleaner!
Is that safe?
Honey, where'd you go? |
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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I can easily imagine Angus at Popehat.com sharing this philosophy:
| The Red Book wrote: | | The biblical Ezechiel was a prophet in the sixth century BCE. Jung saw a great deal of historical significance in his visions, which incorporated a mandala with quaternities, as representing the humanization and differentiation of Yahweh. Although Ezechiel's visions are often viewed as pathological, Jung defended their normality, arguing that visions are natural phenomena that can be designated as pathological only when their morbid aspects have been demonstrated ("Answer to Job," 1952, CW 11, §§665, 667, 686). |
I would say to Angus, "You damn well know that morbid visions lead to morbid 'aspects.'" How about "Son of Sam" for starters?
| The Red Book, by Carl Jung wrote: | | My soul spoke to me in a whisper, urgently and alarmingly: "Words, words, do not make too many words. Be silent and listen: have you recognized your madness and do you admit it? Have you noticed that all your foundations are completely mired in madness? Do you not want to recognize your madness and welcome it in a friendly manner? You wanted to accept everything. So accept madness too. Let the light of your madness shine, and it will suddenly dawn on you. Madness is not to be despised and not to be feared, but instead you should give it life." |
Are we going to forever pretend that the bad guys aren't going to do bad things until after they've already done them, certainly not after writing about them, thinking about them, obsessing about them, or drawing pictures about them? (Sarcasm all around.)
"I'd push a hipster into a woodchipper for you." -- Matt Inman, The Oatmeal
"I'd totally grind you up into a delicious paste if I could." -- Matt Inman, The Oatmeal
This is nothing but an anti-preventative-measures philosophy. An anti-cause-and-effect philosophy. The philosophy of someone who wants people to be marks. Who wants to allow the killings to happen. Who hates speech, although he says he loves "the word." The word of propaganda, that is!
| The Red Book, by Carl Jung wrote: | | There are many graves and corpses in us, an evil stench of decomposition. [203] Just as Christ through the torment of sanctification subjugated the flesh, so the God of this time through the torment of sanctification will subjugate the spirit. Just as Christ tormented the flesh through the spirit, the God of this time will torment the spirit through the flesh. For our spirit has become an impertinent whore, a slave to words created by men and no longer the divine word itself. |
(( Are you keeping up, you little Inman brats? Take a good spanking from your mommy! If she won't do it, I will be more than happy to. With a smile on my face, I am WAILING on your soft and tender ass[es]! ))
Jung isn't the only one who can visualize. And his visualizations are half so damn boring, and half so damn horrible. That guy was totally nuts! Really, a certified nut case! He ate a little girl's liver, after he visualized her decapitated and mashed! He said that was to save him! It was an atonement to the little girl's soul to imagine her murderer doing the very worst on her, to imagine himself as her murderer.
| The Red Book wrote: | | A new salvation is always a restoring of the previously lost. Did not Christ himself restore bloody human sacrifice, which better customs had expelled from sacred practice since days of old? Did he not himself reinstate the sacred practice of the eating of human sacrifice? In your sacred practice, that which earlier laws condemned will once again be included. |
Why wasn't that guy in prison, like Jared Lee Loughner? The prison for people who have really sadistic, ugly minds?
| The Red Book wrote: | | Have you heard of those dark ones who roamed incognito alongside those who ruled the day, conspiratorially causing unrest? Who devised cunning things and did not shrink from any crime to honor their God? |
Like Ezechiel, who wants you to be BROKEN! Only then are you fit to live with God, he says. I guess, everyone's a fucking cripple around God. Smashed, bashed and slashed. Heaven is like a hospital, with God as the abusive father beating the shit out of everyone. But he doesn't hire nurses or doctors -- of course not. Everyone makes do as best they can. Everyday it's another kick, another slam against the wall.
And the weather is really terrible. It pours maladies day in, day out.
They call this "heaven"? I won't fall into their dualistic trap of preferring "hell." Boy, then they really have got you. You got to take one of the other paths besides the two extremes, which are simply constructed, anyway. Shades of Truman Show.
We found another inmate to keep Carl Jung and Jared Lee Loughner company in the Bad Mind Prison: God -- take center stage.
Angus -- have you reconsidered your position as a Jung advocate since "The Red Book" was published? It's SOOOOOOO embarrassing. No more hiding behind your high-flown -- COUGH! COUGH! -- Jungian concepts! OMG! HE'S IN THE MUD!
Who's going to get down there with him? Andy Kaufman, where are you? I want to watch a mud wrestle between Carl Jung and Andy Kaufman.
I love you, Andy, even if you don't exist!
I wish you were here. |
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