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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finished reading the Rosicrucian Cosmo-Conception by Max Heindel, and I thought to nominate it as the craziest book in the world, aside from the Malleus Malificarum, but then I realized that crazy ideas are everywhere. Humans seem to have a preference for them. How would an objective person look at Tibetan Buddhism, or Mormonism, or Christianity? Maybe Zen is different. It IS different, at least as far as I know from reading Suzuki Roshi and Takuan Soho. Alan Watts wasn't really Zen -- I don't know what he was. And I found alll kinds of Nietzsche ideas in Heindel's book. I don't know why I was surprised to find out that Nietzsche was a Rosicrucian. All the Nazis were/are Rosicrucians.

Anyway, continuing on the trail of the Octopus, I started reading Hermann Hesse's "Demian" -- I just don't feel like I'm ready to read Jung's "Red Book," until I get more Rosicrucian background, because he writes in Rosicrucian code, otherwise, it doesn't make a damn bit of sense, and I won't be able to properly critique it. Not that it makes sense once you have the key, a hearty laugh out loud. I also need to read Schopenhauer before I read Jung. And I'd like to read Nietzsche's "Antichrist."

"Demian" starts with an introduction by Thomas Mann, saying how much he loves Hermann Hesse. And I thought, when I hear this kind of ass-kissing, it just makes me suspicious about the writer of the book, it makes me think he belongs to a cult, because why does he need someone telling us how great he is? How often does that happen in real life? Getting praised -- ha! I wish someone would praise me sometimes. And the book should speak for itself. If it's good, let's get on with it. I like people who self-publish and who can't get an agent, and write their own introductions, and don't have anyone from the New York Times, or so-called "famous" people, saying how great the book is when you know they never read it; otherwise, why would their comments be so boring?
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But before I go on, let me see if I can articulate the lunatic Rosicrucian view regarding race.

Stragglers, those who aren't qualified to evolve along with the rest of humanity, who if allowed to continue living among us would drag us down with their inferiority, and prevent our progress, our salvation, these "sunspots" obscuring the very light of the holy sun, who must be gotten "out of the way," "thrown out into space beyond recall," onto the moons surrounding the planets, which are the result of their own "crystallizing" energy, where they are "held over" in a state of inertia that lasts for inconceivable milliards of years, aka as "eternal damnation", which is not "endless" torture, "until some future evolution reaches a stage where they can drop in and proceed with their development," where they can rid themselves of their inferior bodies that correspond with the fact that they have no minds, bodies like monkeys and apes and "savages, Indians, Negroes, Australian aborigines, Bushmen, Red, Black, Yellow and Brown people," who have "duller nervous systems," are "less sensitive to lacerations," and are "sterile" ...

And Failures, those who are destined to die out according to "The Law of Evolution," because they inhabit the old, discarded bodies of the advancing Teutonic-Anglo-Saxon race who always get new, "flexible, plastic" bodies in which they can make wonderful progress ...

Two classes of beings THAT ARE VERY DIFFERENT from Races, which exist here on Earth at the very nadir of existence only because the differences between man and man are so great that the separation into races is "warranted," although it is a great sin to be too attached to your Race like Jews who -- "once a Jew, always a Jew" -- "have entirely forgotten their spiritual nature," and are "neither fish nor flesh" ...

Which Race story reads as follows: the "Original Semites," were "chosen" by Jehovah to be the "seed race" for the seven races of our present Aryan epoch because they were "different from the ordinary humanity of that time." They were "set apart and forbidden to marry into other tribes." They regulated their desires with "cunning and craftiness," and learned that "brain is superior to brawn." These people, twice chosen, were led out of Atlantis into the Gobi Desert and "imbued potentially with the qualities to be evolved by their descendants." But few "remained faithful" to Jehovah's edict to marry within their chosen race, and the rebellious, stiff-necked, hard Semites of the bunch married the "lower grades" of the Atlantean races, "thus bringing inferior blood into their descendants," for which they were punished by Jehovah by being lost like no people has ever been lost, "the fruit of such cross-breeding being useless as seed for the coming Race."

The faithful Semites who didn't marry other Atlanteans, reincarnated and inherited "the Promised Land," and are ancestors of the present Aryan Races.

The rebellious "lost" Semites are the present Jews who are still to this day governed by desire and cunning, and guilty of strong race-feeling, which makes them despise others and be despised back by them. These Jews "have no part in the advancing Aryan Race." They are "a people without a country." "They stubbornly refuse to amalgamate with others." In rejecting Christ, the Elder Brothers realized that the Jews were absolutely hopeless, "and as a last expedient, scattered them among all the nations of the earth." Which is to be their saving grace. "In the same way they became lost by marrying into inferior Races, they will be saved by marrying superior Races."

And a wonderful time without Race is on the horizon. The Elder Brothers will kill billions of people ("earth's density decreased"), and we'll have a new earth, at which time there will only be one Race. (Which Race? The Original Semites? The Supermen? Who are they?) At that time, Race will no longer be a problem for the remaining race. Why should it be when they've gotten rid of all their enemies?

Of course, if the "Coming Race" is based on the Superman model -- and it is -- we'll have a world inhabited only by conquerors and tyrants. It will be a Race of Titans. Which sounds very unpleasant to me. In Tibetan Buddhism, the realm of Titans is a realm of constant warfare. That sounds right on for this story.

The sad thing is the horrible Catch 22 for Jews in all of this. The present day Jews (not the faithful Original Semites) are blamed because they refused to marry within their race; they are blamed because they insist on marrying within their race; and they are praised when they marry outside their race. Or more simply put: "If you're a Jew, you're blamed if you do, and you're blamed if you don't."

But the Rosicrucian view is, you don't want to get too wrapped up in Race.
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It's so hard to learn the realities of any particular cult if you're not actually inside of it. I spent the greater part of my life learning about Tibetan Buddhism. I can spot a poseur a mile off. Similarly can others do to me. You have to pay very close attention to your learning about these other cults. But it helps if you've "done" similar weird stuff. I have. I have prayed to the wrathful deities, and drunk whiskey out of a skullcup, cut off my forehead and burned my own body in my skull on a tripod. I didn't feel like I was doing a bad thing. Neither did I trust the whole business. What's the difference between visualizing it and doing it? my teacher asked me once. And I ended up seeing way too close a relationship between the two, too close for comfort. Which is how I came to my philosophical view of the universe called the Tautological Nature of the Mind. It's obvious what it means, which is why I love the name. I don't actually have to explain it. On Tibetan "pechas," there's a library card made out of beautiful colored silk, that gives the title of the book, which a person in the know then knows everything that is in the book. My philosophy is titled with similar power. Nothing like good, old fashioned, common sense. People can try to deny the truth of it, but their denial will haunt them. Or as my Chinese fortune cookie said the other night: "Man's mind, once stretched by a new idea, never regains it's original dimensions." My husband and I drew the fortune cookies to determine the winner of our argument. I won hand's down with that fortune. Then he wouldn't let me throw it away.

The only thing weirder than Tibetan Buddhism is what Aleister Crowley and his crazy gang did. The Marquis de Sade, and the Hellfire bunch. The Inquisition Priests. Yuck! Etcetera.

Maybe I can see a little more of the Masons' inside schtick than most people can -- don't freak out because I said "I", which shows you what kind of philosophy rules our world, which is not the enlightenment philosophy of Thomas Paine, but a terrible, German, nihilistic despair -- particularly Christians who are raised on Mother's Milk, because of having been involved in a similarly magical, sorcerer's tradition. Thank God without the Christianity, Paganism, Gnosticism, Kabbalah, and Sufis!

Who knows, it's even possible that I may come to know a little bit more about the Rosicrucians than they know about themselves. Paradoxically, there's nothing like being in a cult to not know anything about your cult. From an objective viewpoint, that is. No one is more ignorant of the inside political shenanigans of a cult organization than the cult member. Strange how you just can't see the really great faults of your religion. Except in your dreams. I had to stop "being" a Tibetan Buddhist in order to know anything about Tibetan Buddhism. You can't even really see the inside of it, either. Once you sign on, you're just ignorant to the facts.

Like joining the military. They're not even allowed to question what they do. They are so unfree. They can't even open their mouth. And that's an arm of the U.S. Government? A little contradictory, I would say! If I was running the military -- and just give me the job! -- I'd let a private 1st class tell a general to fuck off any day! And there would be NO wars of aggression. There would be no wars at all. Is war not harmful? Is America a country that inflicts harm? How difficult is it to completely reject it? Is this America, or what?! We're supposed to be better than all of this. I believed every word I heard when I was growing up about what a great country America is, and it's not keeping up with my expectations. I guess I'm supposed to lower them like all the other ignoramuses in America do.

And there's absolutely nothing worse than a vow. Take a vow to NEVER take a vow. It's only going to cause you trouble in the future. Except for the marriage vow. People should get married, including homosexuals and lesbians. And the vow to protect the Constitution of the United States if you are one of our elected representatives. Don't call yourself an "official"! You're not my boss! Rather, it was meant to be the other way around. All of us as YOUR boss. "What a quaint idea," people say.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hermann Hesse's "Demian" character IS Carl Jung.

Hermann Hesse, Demian wrote:
The clattering of hooves could be heard approaching along the street. It sounded near and metallic, then suddenly stopped. I leaped to the window and saw Demian dismounting below. I ran down.

"What is it, Demian?"

He paid no attention to my words. He was very pale and sweat poured down his cheeks. He tied the bridle of his steaming horse to the garden fence and took my arm and walked down the street with me.

"Have you heard about it?"

I had heard nothing.

Demian squeezed my arm and turned his face toward me, with a strangely somber yet sympathetic look in his eyes.

"Yes, it's starting. You've heard about the difficulties with Russia."

"What? Is it war?"

He spoke very softly although no one was anywhere near us.

"It hasn't been declared yet. But there will be war. You can take my word for that. I didn't want to worry you but I have seen omens on three different occasions since that time. So it won't be the end of the world, no earthquake, no revolution, but war. You'll see what a sensation that will be! People will love it. Even now they can hardly wait for the killing to begin -- their lives are that dull! But you will see, Sinclair, that this is only the beginning. Perhaps it will be a very big war, a war on a gigantic scale. But that, too, will only be the beginning. The new world has begun and the new world will be terrible for those clinging to the old. What will you do?"


P.S. Cronenberg's new movie, "A Dangerous Method," about Carl Jung, is pallid, tepid, boring, uninspired. Another cleverly designed female sacrifice, turning a beautiful woman (Keira Knightley) into an insane person who gets off on being hit and humiliated while she is naked as a prelude to sex, according to the script written by Christopher Hampton. I'm sure she felt honored to portray Carl Jung's crazy girlfriend, but I would rather her play the role of a happy, intelligent, fun woman. And his wife, the long-suffering, patient mother of his children, who never, ever gets angry.

It seems that every beautiful female actress MUST BE humiliated in a movie like this. We MUST SEE her features distorted into ugliness to satisfy the ever-present, male misogyny. The Illuminati DO LOVE a heroine who suffers, since their illumination is nil. Luis Bunuel even had the nerve to do it to Catherine Deneuve, over and over again. She was obviously afflicted with her extreme beauty. Fuck these guys. Luis Bunuel has long been on my enemies list, and next to him I'm now putting Cronenberg.

Talk about uninspired. That would also include Carl Jung and ALL of his fellow Rosicrucians. They're like a crime syndicate of artists, poets, philosophers, writers, who create old Rosicrucian art and fraudulently put their own name to it, calling it "individuation." The individuation of the behemoth. They wouldn't dare to be PRESUMPTUOUS, and be anything other than a clone of Daddy. Like George Bush, Jr. Such good little boys and girls, doing exactly what they are told under threat of a blood oath. I would have admired George Bush, Jr. more if he had headed for the hills, away from his mommy and daddy who must qualify as the most abusive parents in the world. There's still time, left, George -- you're not dead, yet. You could tell your parents to go to hell.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wikipedia wrote:
One important difference between Epicurus’ eudaimonism and that of Plato and Aristotle is that for the latter virtue is a constituent of eudaimonia, whereas for Epicurus virtue is a means to eudaimonia. To this difference, consider Aristotle’s theory. Aristotle does not think that virtue is pursued for the sake of eudaimonia. Eudaimonia is a byproduct of virtue: it does not enter at all into the reasons why virtuous action is virtuous. Aristotle does not think that we literally aim for eudaimonia. Rather, eudaimonia is what we achieve when we live according to the requirements of reason.


"Constituents" vs. "means," "for the sake of" vs. "byproduct of," "literally aiming at" vs. "achieving" -- gimme a break. If we're going to split hairs like this, we're never going to get anywhere. Can we agree that the people need to be fed, clothed, and housed?

And don't tell me, "No!" When you take away the people's right to gather their food, clothing and shelter from nature, confine them to cities, and then rule over them, you damn well better provide them with EVERYTHING they need. There's no survival of the fittest in the City. There's only crime, kissing ass, poverty and death. People are meant to live in an environment where nature gives freely. NOT this patriarchal prison nightmare we all live in.

Fuckin-A! Philosophers are idiots.
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Hermann Hesse confirms that Carl Jung had inside knowledge about -- I almost wrote "9/11." I'm sure they're very closely connected: World War I and 9/11. Foreknowledge means guilt, means conspiracy. It breaks my heart to think that World War I could have been yet another cult conspiracy. Well, of course it was. But to see Carl Jung in the thick of it, someone whom we've been told to admire, is shocking. And Hermann Hesse, Jung's little doggie: "I need only bend over that dark mirror to behold my own image, now completely resembling him, my brother, my master." Why does he have to bend over?

Incredible obsession. I guess privileged people can afford to be crazy and obsess about their feelings. To get on a train or bus and wander around randomly from city to city hoping they'll bump into their obsession. And they do, because they're so diligent. At least in the story, which is 3/4's truth and 1/4 fiction.

I've lost all respect for Hermann Hesse. He's a complete nutcase. He cannot stop obsessing about Carl Jung, to such an extent that he has to fall in love with Carl's mother, just to get a legitimate piece of him. He never loved the mother; she was simply a surrogate for Carl Jung. And such a follower Hermann Hesse was. But that bit he wrote in the last chapter of Demian about being part of the "higher community" that was going to step in and lead the world after the mass death predicted for World War I, and all he cares about is his "crystal" ego, is revolting and definitely cultish. And for some strange reason, all kinds of "important" people have an interest in promoting the myth of Hermann Hesse as a pacifist. Are these the words of a pacifist?


Hermann Hesse, Demian wrote:
How curious all this was, and, fundamentally, how beautiful! And now there was to be war. What we had talked about so often was to begin. Demian had known so much about it ahead of time. How strange that the stream of the world was not to bypass us any more, that it now went straight through our hearts, and that now or very soon the moment would come when the world would need us, when it would seek to transform itself. Demian was right, one could not be sentimental about that. The only remarkable thing was that I was to share the very personal matter of my fate with so many others, with the whole world in fact. Well, so be it! ...

All men seemed to have become brothers -- overnight. They talked of "the fatherland" and of "honor," but what lay behind it was their own fate whose unveiled face they had now all beheld for one brief moment. Young men left their barracks, were packed into trains, and on many faces I saw a sign -- not ours -- but a beautiful, dignified sign nonetheless that meant love and death. I, too, was embraced by people whom I had never seen before and I understood this gesture and responded to it. Intoxication made them do it, not a hankering after their destiny. But this intoxication was sacred, for it was the result of their all having thrown that brief and terribly disquieting glance into the eyes of their fate.

It was nearly winter when I was sent to the front. Despite the excitement of being under fire for the first time, in the beginning everything disappointed me. At one time I had given much thought to why men were so very rarely capable of living for an ideal. Now I saw that many, no, all men were capable of dying for one. Yet it could not be a personal, a freely chosen ideal; it had to be one mutually accepted.

As time went on though I realized I had underestimated these men. However much mutual service and danger made a uniform mass of them, I still saw many approach the will of fate with great dignity. Many, very many, not only during the attack but at every moment of the day, wore in their eyes the remote, resolute, somewhat possessed look which knows nothing of aims and signified complete surrender to the incredible. Whatever they might think or believe, they were ready, they could be used, they were the clay of which the future could be shaped. The more single-mindedly the world concentrated on war and heroism, on honor and other old ideals, the more remote and improbable any whisper of genuine humanity sounded -- that was all just surface, in the same way that the question of the war's external and political objectives remained superficial. Deep down, underneath, something was taking shape. Something akin to a new humanity. For I could see many men -- and many died beside me -- who had begun to feel acutely that hatred and rage, slaughter and annihilation, were not bound up with these objectives. No, these objectives and aims were completely fortuitous. The most primitive, even the wildest feelings were not directed at the enemy; their bloody task was merely an irradiation of the soul, of the soul divided within itself, which filled them with the lust to rage and kill, annihilate and die so that they might be born anew.

One night in early spring I stood guard in front of a farm that we had occupied. A listless wind was blowing fitfully; across the Flemish sky cloud armies rode on high, somewhere behind them the suggestion of a moon. I had been uneasy the entire day -- something was worrying me deeply. Now on my dark guard post I fervently recalled the images of my life and thought of Frau Eva and of Demian. I stood braced against a poplar tree staring into the drifting clouds whose mysteriously writhing patches of light soon metamorphosed into huge series of swirling images. From the strange weakness of my pulse, the insensitiveness of my skin to wind and rain, and my intense state of consciousness I could sense that a master was near me.

A huge city could be seen in the clouds out of which millions of people streamed in a host over vast landscapes. Into their midst stepped a mighty, godlike figure, as huge as a mountain range, with sparkling stars in her hair, bearing the features of Frau Eva. The ranks of the people were swallowed up into her as into a giant cave and vanished from sight. The goddess cowered on the ground, the mark luminous on her forehead. A dream seemed to hold sway over her: she closed her eyes and her countenance became twisted with pain. Suddenly she cried out and from her forehead sprang stars, many thousands of shining stars that leaped in marvelous arches and semicircles across the black sky.


"Well, so be it"? What kind of pacifist would say that? You would never hear me saying such a stupid thing. And he doesn't even have the decency to express any sorrow that people are dying. http://www.naderlibrary.com/lit.horrorofit.toc.htm Instead, he sees all that death, I suppose, as beautiful stars birthed out of Eve's forehead.

And the desperation indicated by looking for signs in the clouds. That happened to me once, at one of my lowest times in Tibetan Buddhism. And I feel ashamed about it now. Thank God I got out of that cult soon after that, they would have made me completely crazy. It is sad when you look for visions in the sky.

I just got a book by Miguel Serrano about his friendship with Jung and Hesse. Serrano was a big nazi/communist/fascist/cultist. It's very bad that these guys were friends with Miguel. I'd say it's the nail in their coffin. I read a funny article the other day from the Guardian.uk about how it was time to put away all accusations that Carl Jung was a Nazi. Like he could just say it, and it would be so. Now we're all intimidated, and we wouldn't DARE call attention to Carl Jung's nazi connections, because he said not to. Well, he's not going to stop me. I just heard about it, and I'm finding all kinds of evidence that it was true. But I could never have believed Hermann Hesse was one, too. That's what comes from not knowing anything, and not reading the material closely for understanding.

That whole Abraxas business. I'm sure the Cult Leaders, and Carl Jung was obviously one of them, really regret having ever having revealed the name of their God. Besides him and Hermann Hesse, who has done it? A God that is both good and bad, black and white, because they want the WHOLE banana. Yeah, that makes sense. We all want the WHOLE banana, don't we? We want torture and kindness, burning and freezing, love and hate, health and disease, pleasure and pain -- sure, everyone wants that -- NOT! What kind of idiot would be convinced by that argument? Like we want pain from our God. But then, you know what they say about weeding out the intelligent from your group by advocating the most stupid things possible. Then you've got a group of people you can really control.

It appears they devised the war just to entertain and kill people, very Killer Klowns from Outer Space. http://www.naderlibrary.com/killerklown.toc.htm They made people think they were going to a circus!


Carl Jung in Hermann Hesse's Demian wrote:
"It hasn't been declared yet. But there will be war. You can take my word for that. I didn't want to worry you but I have seen omens on three different occasions since that time. So it won't be the end of the world, no earthquake, no revolution, but war. You'll see what a sensation that will be! People will love it. Even now they can hardly wait for the killing to begin -- their lives are that dull! But you will see, Sinclair, that this is only the beginning. Perhaps it will be a very big war, a war on a gigantic scale. But that, too, will only be the beginning. The new world has begun and the new world will be terrible for those clinging to the old. What will you do?"
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Demian, by Hermann Hesse wrote:
A huge city could be seen in the clouds out of which millions of people streamed in a host over vast landscapes. Into their midst stepped a mighty, godlike figure, as huge as a mountain range, with sparkling stars in her hair, bearing the features of Frau Eva. The ranks of the people were swallowed up into her as into a giant cave and vanished from sight. The goddess cowered on the ground, the mark luminous on her forehead. A dream seemed to hold sway over her: she closed her eyes and her countenance became twisted with pain. Suddenly she cried out and from her forehead sprang stars, many thousands of shining stars that leaped in marvelous arches and semicircles across the black sky.


THE ILLUSION OF WAR
By Richard Le Gallienne

War
I abhor,
And yet how sweet
The sound along the marching street
Of drum and fife, and I forget
Broken old mothers, and the whole
Dark butchery without a soul.

Oh, it is wickedness to clothe
Yon hideous, grinning thing that stalks
Hidden in music, like a queen
That in a garden of glory walks
Till good men love the thing they loathe;
Art, thou hast many infamies,
But not an infamy like this.
Oh, snap the fife and still the drum,
And show the monster like she is.



The Moving Finger writes; and having writ,
Moves on; nor all your Piety or Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all your Tears wash out a Word of it.

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Psychology of the Unconscious, by Carl Jung wrote:
"Mark how, beneath the evening sunlight's glow
The green-embosomed houses glitter;
The glow retreats, done is the day of toil,
It yonder hastes, new fields of life exploring;
Ah, that no wing can lift me from the soil
Upon its track to follow, follow soaring!
Then would I see eternal Evening gild
The silent world beneath me glowing. . . .
Yet, finally, the weary god is sinking;
The new-born impulse fires my mind, --
I hasten on, his beams eternal drinking,
The day before me and the night behind,
Above me heaven unfurled, the floor of waves beneath me, --
A glorious dream! though now the glories fade.
Alas! the wings that lift the mind to aid
Of wings to lift the body can bequeath me."

Not long afterwards, Faust sees "the black dog roving there through cornfields and stubble," the dog who is the same as the devil, the tempter, in whose hellish fires Faust has singed his wings. When he believed that he was expressing his great longing for the beauty of the sun and the earth, "he went astray thereover" and fell into the hands of "the Evil One."

"Yes, resolute to reach some brighter distance,
On earth's fair sun I turn my back."

This is what Faust had said shortly before, in true recognition of the state of affairs. The honoring of the beauty of nature led the Christian of the Middle Ages to pagan thoughts which lay in an antagonistic relation to his conscious religion.

http://www.naderlibrary.com/lit.jungpsychologyunconscous.htm


This is one of the very same passages I pulled out from Faust when I was reading it several years ago to illustrate a nihilistic idea. I want to refute Jung's idea that this is an example of "honoring the beauty of nature." No, it's not. It's hating nature, and longing for death. I really wish these gnostic/pagans would stop saying they are nature lovers. How can anyone who longs for "an eternal evening gild" love nature? "Resolute to reach some brighter distance, on earth's fair sun I turn my back." They want something completely different than this nature. I hate these large categories, anyway, so let's get specific. What parts of nature do you love, and what parts do you hate? I hate the killing part; I love gentle creatures.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bullshit! Transmitted via media and mouth.

C.G. Jung, Lord of the Underworld, by Colin Wilson wrote:
It was in 1910 that Jung stumbled upon two discoveries that abruptly crystallized his idea of the collective unconscious. In a Greek magical papyrus called the Mithras Liturgy, he came upon a reference to a tube that hangs down from the sun, and which is the origin of the wind. It reminded him that in 1906, a schizophrenic patient had told him that he saw an erect phallus on the sun, and that 'this was where the wind came from'. He also recalled a painting by an early German artist showing a tube coming down from heaven and passing under the clothes of the Virgin Mary, and the Holy Ghost flying down the tube to impregnate her. Was it possible, he wondered, that these three images all sprang from the same deep source in the unconscious?

In the same year, Jung read about the discovery of a cache of 'soul stones' near Arlesheim, a place he had visited in his childhood. Jung saw them in his mind's eye as oblong and blackish, with the upper and lower halves painted different shades. He suddenly recalled the small wooden figure from the ruler he had placed in a pencil case as a child, and hidden under a beam in the attic. Now it struck him that it had resembled the Greek spirit of convalescence, Telesphoros. It was the thought that he had been unconsciously performing some ancient religious rite that suddenly convinced him that 'there are archaic psychic components which have entered the individual psyche without any direct line of tradition'. In other words, that our unconscious minds contain certain symbols and images that have been, so to speak, transmitted in the genes.
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Where is the religion in the cave paintings at Lascaux? http://www.naderlibrary.com/lascauxtoc.htm

C.G.Jung, Lord of hte Underworld, by Colin Wilson wrote:
Now one of the most puzzling things about man is that as far back in history as we can trace, he seems to have been a religious animal. Why should this be so? Presumably because religion is an attempt to come to terms with the riddle of the universe: with birth and death, hunger and pain, natural catastrophes, the mysteries of nature. Sex is, of course, an integral part of religion, from the fertility ceremonies of aborigines to the Virgin birth. Jung describes a primitive ceremony in which a hole is dug in the ground and surrounded by small bushes -- to look like a vagina -- then the men dance around it, thrusting their spears into it, shouting 'Not a pit but a cunt'. So perhaps when we encounter sex in ancient myths and primitive rituals, it is not because sex is the most important impulse in our lives, but because it is a part of an even deeper impulse, religion.



"Look, Ma -- no deities!"
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