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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aion, by Carl Jung wrote:
[T]here is no doubt that a large proportion of these endosomatic stimuli are simply incapable of consciousness and are so elementary that there is no reason to assign them a psychic nature


What in the world could this possibly mean? And since it means nothing to the ordinary person, exactly WHO is he talking to?
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Aion, by Carl Jung wrote:
[F]rom the standpoint of the psychology of the personality a twofold division [of the unconscious] ensues: an "extra-conscious" psyche whose contents are personal, and an "extra-conscious" psyche whose contents are impersonal and collective. The first group comprises contents which are integral components of the individual personality and could therefore just as well be conscious; the second group forms, as it were, an omnipresent, unchanging, and everywhere identical quality or substrate of the psyche per se....Whereas the contents of the personal unconscious are acquired during the individual's lifetime, the contents of the collective unconscious are invariably archetypes that were present from the beginning.


Here Jung makes the so-called "collective" part of us eternal, while making the "personal" part of us impermanent, just this lifetime only. Jung is creating a religion here around Communism, making the collective sacred. Symbolically, he split us into the Collective between the end of Chapter 1 and the beginning of Chapter 2 -- right in that inbetween bardo space.

So the "Self" has two parts, the greater part of which is "Not-Self", i.e. Collective. Another BRILLIANT reconciliation of opposites. The "Collective" is like an implant. Jung calls it an "archetype." Archetypes, implants, possession ... all the same thing: the magic of mind control. Carl Jung is a witch!
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Aion, by Carl Jung wrote:
Take fire or unslaked lime, which the Philosophers say grows on trees. In this fire God himself glows in divine love. . . . Likewise the Natural Master says regarding the art of fire, that Mercurius is to be decomposed . . . and fixed in the unquenchable or living fire, wherein God himself glows, together with the sun, in divine love, for the solace of all men; and without this fire can the art never be brought to perfection. It is also the fire of the Philosophers, which they keep hidden away and concealed. . . . It is also the noblest fire which God created upon earth, for it has a thousand virtues. To these things the teacher replies that God has bestowed upon it such virtue and efficacy ... that with this fire is mingled the Godhead itself. And this fire purifies, as purgatory does in the lower regions.


Ooh, the "Godhead."

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Psychology of the Unconscious, by Carl Jung wrote:
"Yes, resolute to reach some brighter distance;
On earth's fair sun I turn my back."


The longing of Faust became his ruin. The longing for the Beyond had brought as a consequence a loathing for life, and he stood on the brink of self-destruction....

He struggles for freedom and wins life, at the same time giving himself over to the Evil One; but through this he becomes the bringer of death to her whom he loves most, Marguerite. He tears himself away from pain and sacrifices his life in unceasing useful work, through which he saves many lives.


Like George Bush's torturers, Faust "saved many lives."

Memorandum for William J. Haynes, II, from John C. Yoo, 3/14/03 wrote:
Self-defense is a common-law defense to federal criminal offenses, and nothing in the text, structure or history of section 2340A precludes its application to a charge of torture ... If hurting him is the only means to prevent the death or injury of others put at risk by his actions, such torture should be permissible."

http://www.naderlibrary.com/911.torturepaperskarengreen.htm
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Psychology of the Unconscious, by Carl Jung wrote:
"In like manner the so-called tube, the origin of the ministering wind, will become visible. For it will appear to you as a tube hanging down from the sun."

This extremely important vision of a tube hanging down from the sun would produce in a religious text, such as that of the Mithraic liturgy, a strange and at the same time meaningless effect if it did not have the phallic meaning. The tube is the place of origin of the wind. The phallic meaning seems very faint in this idea, but one must remember that the wind, as well as the sun, is a fructifier and creator. This has already been pointed out in a footnote. There is a picture by a Germanic painter of the Middle Ages of the "conceptio immaculata" which deserves mention here. The conception is represented by a tube or pipe coming down from heaven and passing beneath the skirt of Mary. Into this flies the Holy Ghost in the form of a dove for the impregnation of the Mother of God.

Honegger discovered the following hallucination in an insane man (paranoid dement): The patient sees in the sun an "upright tail" similar to an erected penis. When he moves his head back and forth, then, too, the sun's penis sways back and forth in a like manner, and out of that the wind arises. This strange hallucination remained unintelligible to us for a long time until I became acquainted with the Mithraic liturgy and its visions. This hallucination threw an illuminating light, as it appears to me, upon a very obscure place in the text which immediately follows the passage previously cited:

Mead translates this very clearly:

"And towards the regions westward, as though it were an infinite East wind. But if the other wind, towards the regions of the East, should be in service, in the like fashion shalt thou see towards the regions of that side the converse of the sight."

In the original is the vision, the thing seen. means properly the carrying away. The sense of the text, according to this, might be: the thing seen may be carried or turned sometimes here, sometimes there, according to the direction of the wind. The is the tube, "the place of origin of the wind," which turns sometimes to the east, sometimes to the west, and, one might add, generates the corresponding wind. The vision of the insane man coincides astonishingly with this description of the movement of the tube.


At the point in his visualization where the big penis starts waving back and forth and producing wind, I realized that Jung was F*CKING WITH US. Perhaps also PISSING ON US. Look at this visualization, this so-called "myth." It's perverted, disgusting and insulting! He is obviously making it up to phallicize the Zeitgeist, his "hidden" message being that whether an idea's time has come depends on who has the biggest dick. Which shows how much respect he actually has for myth. It's simply a way to entrap us, make us sacralize a good f*cking.

The Roots of Nazi Psychology, by Jay Gonen wrote:
At the point of contact between leaders and followers reside ideologies. The term "ideology" is used here in quite a loose sense. It refers to any idea or set of ideas that provides a prescriptive view of life. The term is therefore not confined to lengthy doctrines that are systematized in the form of a tract or a dissertation, since ideologies may also be expressed by short slogans. Moreover, they can be loaded with different layers of meaning. They can consist of a formalized and presumably conscious worldview that includes many parts. But they can equally well be comprised of unconscious shared group fantasies, which have the power to charge up the entire group with sufficient energy to trigger unified mass action. Consequently they frequently include myths while their promoters engage in the selling of those myths. Moreover, slogans, catch phrases, enticing ideas, poignant jokes, stirring songs but also a variety of visual images that appear on posters, placards, and walls as well as in illustrations and cartoons published by newspapers and magazines may all represent small bits or chunks of ideologies. Whatever form they take, whether it is one picture that is worth more than a thousand words or an uplifting short slogan, these bits and chunks of ideology encapsulate succinct and rather unidimensional views of the world or of national life. What is more, they may be widely dispersed and "float in the air." When that happens, the ideological prescriptions frequently express themselves through aphorisms. A current American example would be the saying "winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." An earlier German example which is taken from a Nazi marching song would be the lines "For today Germany belongs to us and tomorrow the whole world." As can be seen, such small ideological segments, which prescribe what to expect from life, ride on a variety of "carriers." That is why they may frequently be lifted from songs, plays, jokes, drawings or paintings, political speeches and similar layers of the cultural repository. They are embedded in the culture but their drawing power fluctuates according to the position they happen to occupy in the particular zeitgeist, or spirit of the time. The zeitgeist is a concept that denotes the ripening of a cultural image or idea to the point where its time has arrived. It also connotes a notion of movement where ideas float to the foreground when their time comes or sink to the background when their time is gone. The issue of when an ideology's time for action has arrived is largely determined by changes within the zeitgeist that reflect an altered emotional climate and the shifting winds of public mood.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jung uses all these strange terms. He makes them up, usually with very chaotic, irrational, contradictory definitions attached to them, or he takes previously defined terms, and makes up new words or phrases for them. So you can have, say, 10 new words, and they all mean -- sort of -- the same thing. If you can put your head in that maelstrom of insanity which are those words. It's like the La Brea tar pits in Los Angeles: you can fall into any one of those whirling "things," and end up in the tarpits of Jesus. Who is actually Satan.

So I read the first three chapters of Jung's "Aion. It was a rocky ride. Full of sidetracks into deep, dark canyons where a Leviathan could pop out at you at any moment. He obviously hates women. And he hates men, too, if they're not mean, tough, macho men. Most men for him are homosexuals still sucking on mama's tit. But there's a sense of self-hatred with his other-hatred, which I've seen quite often with these guys. One of the best movies I ever saw was "Outrage," -- "Do Ask, Do Tell" -- about all the homosexual-homosexual-hating men there are running Washington. It's a terrible thing when a group is marginalized. Their hate comes out and slimes you. And everyone goes down, even their best friends and lovers. There's just nothing but hate ... and cynicism ... and a recklessness to make you fear.

Basically, the idea is, "if they can't be happy, then you can't be happy either." I can understand that sentiment, but it's weak, and pathetic. Even if you're dropping the bombs. Because you don't have a ray of hope.

I criticize this world terribly, but I have a ray of hope. That people will wake up and see that they are amazing, magical beings, each one unique, coming from who knows where, each one of us doing our own thing, if we have the sense to. And that this "world" we "inhabit" is really viewed from a far distance, if you grok about it. Sure, we're our bodies, and gravity holds us to the earth, but I've found that gravity force to be quite weak when even at its strongest. I wish it was stronger. I wish it would hold me to the earth like it would never let me go. Even this poor, pathetic, partially-despised earth. Because the gravity would be worth more than all of it. With gravity I could transcend. So I futilely struggle into the earth, but I can't get far enough because it doesn't have the power to pull me.

Jung is a solipsist extraordinaire. Let me see if I can even say what he says. He is an artist of madness. I can see what he's doing, and I sneeringly admire it -- I make faces while I do it -- because I certainly couldn't do what he does. I don't think many people can. He is a unique, crazy character. They would have loved him in the Inquisition. He and T.S. Eliot and recently-deceased Samuel Taylor Coleridge. Jung and Eliot were only 13 years apart. He seems to be a German working for the English at Tavistock, even. It seems -- and I'm going wild here -- that Freud's nephew Edward Bernays preferred Jung over his uncle -- which is why Freud fainted when Jung talked about his father-figure dying, and why so many of Freud's rejected compatriots committed suicide. End of wildness here.

I always sneer when they say "he was a genius." No matter who they are. I've found few geniuses in this world. Maybe more among the Fascists than the others. "Genius" being defined as crazy-mother-fucker. But Jung WAS a genius, a mad, evil genius, the real kind not some "Dr. Evil" joke played by Mike Myers, which movie acknowledges the CIA's strategy of making themselves look ridiculous, like killer klowns from outer space, in order to get us off their track. http://www.naderlibrary.com/killerklown.toc.htm "They are just clowns, after all. They can't do anything right! Aren't they funny, ha ha? Besides -- they don't even exist!" Meanwhile, they're wrapping you in cocoons and sipping you with a straw, like a circus fun-drink. Yes, that's you pulverized. And you think everyone would be rational if they only thought about it! People don't seem to want to get that one out of their heads. I have seen the most intelligent people espouse this view, and I just sneer some more. I know who's smart and who's dumb.



And so do they! Here's the nightmare contraption Carl Jung would put you in:

If you're a boy, you're attached to your mother, you want to fuck your mother, you're a little homosexual, whiny brat, and you'll never get anywhere unless you realize the evil within. That's the only thing that's going to save you, you shitbag. And yes, you'll have to kill your mother, but the rewards will be so great. Because you'll become a god. And you know what that means? That means power and money and force. We real men like those things and we'll crush anyone who doesn't agree with us. We'll crush you even if you do agree with us. Surely we can find some minor disagreement to have a nuclear war over. "Fight, fight, fight! Kill, kill, kill!" That's their mantra.

If you're a girl, god-forgive you, earth-forgive you as we heap abuse on you. You're only beautiful when you're Sophia, and we punished her, made her responsible for the whole mess, and every time you talk we hate you. Your only job is to open your legs when we tell you to, and have our sons. And suffer for our pleasure! We have little boys for another kind of pleasure and love. You women are just for child-bearing. You're stupider than the night is long.

And you're never yourself. If you're a man, you're either your worst woman-image coming out of you, pretending to be a woman, projecting you back on you, while your man side is being stolen by the female part of you -- yes, you're an androgyne -- and turned into a nightmare of false pride and knowing. Your mind is a complete battlefield. It's sadistic. I hesitate to even visualize it. No one wants to read this stuff.

It's that Bosch picture of -- What are those? Elementals eating dead bodies? Some kind of hellish purgatory. Oh, they love that, just like Dante. http://www.naderlibrary.com/hieronymus.159.gif

Ugly.

Like their favorite visualization would be putting people into a meat grinder, and watching your ground meat come out. Yum, yum, good food for killer klowns. And what's shocking -- SHOCKING! -- is that most people are fascinated by the idea of themselves being ground up. And they never seem to realize what's going on because they're like animals who faint when they are about to be eaten. They don't even think to fight back. They just give themselves over to death. Having been heavily conditioned all of their life to love something that's very horrible. What can you say about creaturas like that? Still, they are innocent, and there are children among them, and people who never went to school, and oppressed and poor people. They deserve our pity.

So Jung says the missing fourth element that will make the triad a quaternity for women is "Chthonic Mother." It doesn't sound like something I want to have anything to do with. I google "chthonic." Really weird websites right from the start.
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems quite perverted to be so obsessed with your penis, like Carl Jung is. EVERYTHING is the phallus, the holiest of all. It's hard to believe he was accepted by the common people as any kind of authority. Which just goes to show, people do what they are told. I guess if you get the degree, you can say any old shit -- you get a pass. Even when you have abandoned science, like Carl Jung did, and gone completely to religion. His "science" then became of the "intelligent design" type. But still his friends tell the lie that he was a scientist. Jung talks about how "empirical" his conclusions are, the kind of "empirical" that no one can see them but him. The kind of "empirical" that if you just had a little more faith you could see how true it all is.

How sad that humanity in the main are such children, and believe the old male farts in our society. And here we are with grown-up problems killing us, problems invented by the same old farts they love. We'd be better off without this kind of "love" which is really more like "coercion" and "mind control."

Wake up, humanity. Your daddies are killing us.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A poisonous Pentecost for the Pope, by Philip Pullella wrote:
A POISONOUS PENTECOST FOR THE POPE
by PHILIP PULLELLA
VATICAN CITY— Reuters
Published Sunday, May. 27, 2012 7:56PM EDT
Last updated Monday, May. 28, 2012 1:00PM EDT

The Vatican faces a widening scandal that in one short week has seen the butler of Pope Benedict XVI arrested, the president of its bank unceremoniously dismissed and the publication of a new book alleging conspiracies among cardinals.

It was a poisonous Pentecost Sunday for the Pope, who likely had the tumultuous events of the past week on his mind as he celebrated a mass in St. Peter’s Basilica on the day regarded as the birthday of the church.

On Saturday his personal butler, Paolo Gabriele, 46, was formally charged with stealing confidential papal documents in the scandal that has come to be known as “Vatileaks.” Some of the documents allege cronyism and corruption in contracts with Italian companies.

One prominent cardinal, illustrating the growing emotion of the debate in Vatican circles, wrote in an Italian newspaper that the Pope had been betrayed just as Jesus was 2,000 years ago.

The scandal, which has been brewing for months, has hit the very heart of the Roman Catholic Church. Mr. Gabriele – now known in Vatican statements as “the defendant” – was until Wednesday night the quiet man who served the Pope’s meals, helped him dress and held his umbrella on rainy days.

The Pope made no reference during his two public appearances on Sunday to the scandal or the arrest, which aides said had “saddened and pained” him.

“I feel very sad for the Pope. This whole thing is such a disservice to the church,” Carl Anderson, head of the Knights of Columbus charity group who is also a member of the board of the Vatican bank, told Reuters.

Mr. Gabriele, Pope Benedict’s personal butler since 2006, has often been seen by the pontiff’s side in public, riding in the front seat of the Pope’s open-air jeep during Wednesday general audiences or shielding the pontiff from the rain. In private, he is a member of the small papal household that also includes the pontiff's private secretaries and four consecrated women who care for the papal apartment.

The night before the Vatican announced an arrest as part of its investigation of the leaks, it was rocked by the sudden ouster of the president of its bank, formally known as the Institute for Works of Religion.

Earlier last week saw the publication of His Holiness, a new book by Italian journalist Gianluigi Nuzzi, who was first leaked some of the documents in January and aired them on a television show.

He says he was given the material by people loyal to the church who wanted to expose corruption and that he did not pay anything for the documents.

After the events of last week, the atmosphere in the walled city-state was glum on Sunday. Vatican sources said they could not rule out more arrests, particularly if Mr. Gabriele named any accomplices.

The leaks scandal prompted one prominent churchman, Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini, the former archbishop of Milan and himself once a candidate for the papacy, to appeal to church leaders “to urgently win back the trust of the faithful.”

Few believed that Mr. Gabriele, a shy and private man, could have acted on his own and some said he may have been an unwitting pawn in a Vatican power struggle. “Either he lost his mind or this is a trap,” a friend of his in the Vatican told the newspaper La Stampa.

The leaked documents included letters by an archbishop who was transferred to Washington after blowing the whistle on what he saw as a web of corruption and cronyism, a memo that put a number of cardinals in a bad light, and documents alleging internal conflicts about the Vatican bank.

With a report from Associated Press
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This religion business is really weird. Why do we have two guys with breasts producing milk in this picture? God and the Holy spirit have milk-producing tits. I know I already said that, but I wanted to emphasize it. What the hell? Just try and find a "psychological" reason for it. I can think of one: perversion.

The Passion of Perpetua, by Marie-Louise von Franz wrote:
]A cup of milk was offered to me; and I drank it in the sweetness of the delight of the Lord. The Son is the cup, and He who was milked is the Father: and the Holy Spirit milked Him: because his breasts were full, and it did not seem good to Him that His milk should be spilt for nought; and the Holy Spirit opened her bosom and mingled the milk from the two breasts of the Father; and gave the mixture to the world, [29] without its knowing it; and they who receive [it] are in the perfection of the right hand. [30]
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This is what these Jung people do: religious fortune-telling re-named "psychology." Pure fantasy. Who can say what dreams mean, even the person having them? What an incredible show of ego. No respect for the personal subconscious and the magic it does to the material of the collective unconscious, and all the rest, from places unknown.

The Passion of Perpetua, by Marie-Louise von Franz wrote:
The second vision, on the other hand, contains a piece of the more personal side of Perpetua's problem in a language more accessible to the dreamer's conscious world, although the same basic motifs that appeared in the previous vision are touched upon. This is the dream of the little brother, Dinocrates, in the underworld. The Roman Catholic Church takes such visions very concretely and uses them as a basis for its doctrine of the intercession of saints, which has the effect of succoring the souls in Purgatory. (Perpetua herself seems to have interpreted the dream in this sense.)

If, however, we consider the dream on the subjective level -- i.e., as in the first place an inner event -- Dinocrates (like Saturus in the preceding vision) undoubtedly embodies a spiritual content in Perpetua herself so that his suffering, as portrayed in the dream, is in some way identical with her painful condition. This suffering should therefore be understood as her own inner need that caused her to yearn for the "fountain of living water," or the baptismal water. To Perpetua, this little brother who died in early childhood, together with all the memories which are linked with him, undoubtedly represents a piece of her own past, something child-like, a spirit in herself as yet unbaptised for whom the redeeming truth, symbolized by the water, is literally "too high," as the vision shows by the fact that the edge of the piscina is beyond the child's reach. Between Perpetua and this little brother there is a "great distance," [33] which means that consciously she is far removed from this childish spiritual attitude belonging to her past although it still clings to her. And this is also corroborated by the fact that she tells us she had not so much as thought of him for a long time. This childish piece of Paganism in Perpetua, the dream figure Dinocrates, is suffering from a cancer: that is to say, he is subjected to a state of inner decay which cannot be arrested. The dream points to a regression, or rather to a difficulty which has arisen in Perpetua's inner development which is perhaps the danger of "allowing herself to be influenced" by her father, who strove to do so with all his might and all the authority he possessed. (This is no doubt why her resistance to the Christian attitude is represented as a "child in the family.") Apparently a more childish spirit is still alive in the dreamer, a more unconscious spirit threatened with decay for whom the Christian truth is out of reach so that she yearns in vain for its redeeming effect.
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