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Angus at Popehat.com: Do you admire Cato the Elder, like Carl Jung? Are you suffering from the delusion that our Frankensteinian "Age" is languishing from maladies so horrible that mankind must be wiped out, except for little boys under 12 years old, who you ask for God's blessing that they will be able to procreate with each other without females, like bees, fishes and beetles?
You gotta love the idea of little boys fucking each other "chastely" now that all the wicked, perverted women are gone!
| The Real History of the Rosicrucians, by Arthur Edward Waite wrote: | Then Cato began thus: -- "Your opinions, most wise Grecians, are much to be admired, and have abundantly justified the profound esteem which all the Litterati have of you; the vices, corruptions, and ulcerated wounds under which the age languishes could not be better discovered and pointed out. Nor are your opinions, which are full of humane knowledge, gain-said here for that they are not excellent, but for that the malady is so habituated in the veins, and is even so grounded in the bones, that the constitution of mankind is worn out, and their vital vertue yields to the strength of the distemper; in short, the patient spits nothing but blood and putrefaction, and the hair falls from his head. The physitian, gentlemen, hath a hard part to play when the sick man's maladies are many, and one so far differing from another that cooling medicines, and such as are good for a hot liver, are nought for the stomach, and weaken it too much. Truly this is just our case, for the maladies which molest our age equal the stars of heaven, and are more various than the flowers of the field. I, therefore, think this cure desperate, and that the patient is totally incapable of humane help. We must have recourse to prayers and to other divine helps, which in like case are usually implored from God; this is the true north-star, which, in the greatest difficulties, leads men into the harbour of perfection, for Pauci prudentia, honesta ab deterioribus, utilia ab noxiis discernunt; plures aliorum eventis docentur. If we approve this consideration, we shall find that when the world was formerly sunk into the same disorders, it was God's care that did help it by sending a universal deluge to raze mankind, full of abominable and incorrigible vice, from off the world. And, gentlemen, when a man sees the walls of his house all gaping and ruinous, and its foundations so weakened that, in all appearance, it is ready to fall, certainly it is more wisely done to pull down the house and build it anew, than to lose money and time in piecing and patching it. Therefore, since man's life is so foully depraved with vice that it is past all human power to restore it to its former health, I do with all my heart beseech the Divine Majestie, and counsel you to do the like, that He will again open the cataracts of Heaven, and pour down upon the earth another deluge, with this restriction, that a new Ark may be made, wherein all boys not above twelve years of age may be saved, and that all the female sex, of whatsoever age, be so wholly consumed, that nothing but their unhappy memory may remain. And I beseech the same Divine Majestie that as He hath granted the singular benefit to bees, fishes, beetles, and other animals, to procreate without the female sex, so He will think men worthy of the like favour. I have learnt for certain that as long as there shall be any women in the world men will be wicked."
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Like I said, if Jared Lee Loughner was competent to assist in his own defense, he would have pled not guilty by reason of insanity. A huge injustice has been done to him. He should be in an insane asylum, not a supermax prison. Why did his lawyer allow this travesty to happen? Why did the judge allow it to happen? It was a confession of guilt extracted by drug torture.
It's all about mean Daddy getting to have his pound of flesh. It's a show of fascism, without the show trial.
Meanwhile, and to prove my point, REAL sociopath killers, like Son of Sam, who was part of a Satanic killing cult, and eminently capable of assisting in his defence, PRETEND he is crazy to get the benefits thereof, and spare his life from fellow prisoners who might want to kill him if he was judged sane.
So the sane mass murderers pretend they are insane, and the insane mass murderers pretend they are sane.
And people are content to hear their lies, I suppose.
Lies ARE the law; lies ARE "justice" in America.
They've implemented a version of Catch-22 in this case: If you feel yourself incapable to go on bombing missions, and make a petition to be relieved based upon your incapacity, your petition of incapacity proves your capacity. If Jared Lee Loughner claims he is sane in order to make everyone shut up and go away because he just can't handle it anymore, even after they've judged him to be insane, then he's not insane.
Why did Jared Lee Loughner try to kill Gabrielle Giffords, out of all the possible targets in the universe? What about the guy he supposedly came with? What about him being a military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix? What about his previous threats of murdering people? What about him having previously come to the attention of law enforcement? Is it a coincidence Gabrielle was a woman? When are we going to get answers to these very important questions? President Obama PROMISED us the answers, and what has he done? He delivered him into the hands of the torturers. It looks like a terrorist attack against female politicians to me, just like female soldiers get gang-raped regularly in the military. Until our society addresses the deep issues of misogyny in our culture, we're never going to find the answers to these questions. Of course, we women never lost the answers. We know what's going on. Where are the noble men to protect us? They are few and far inbetween, most of them obedient servants of the alpha males.
Charles is one of the noble men. Look at how he fights for my library. And the Popehat mobsters criticize him for being so effective. Because they are a bunch of women-haters, who hate American Buddha Online Library because it is 100% female, and I have a few nice, strong men backing me up.
They think all women speak and work for their husbands! Ha! In their fucking dreams. Certainly not THIS woman.
My library is about women, not men. Charles has plenty of tools at his own disposal to promote his career, not the smallest of which is his tremendous, charismatic personality. That's not something you create through sharing links. |
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ANDY KAUFMAN MUD WRESTLES CARL JUNG
Andy: "You're Not a Girl, But I'll Make an Exception for Jung"
Jung: "I'll have to smoke this out!"
| Carl Jung, The Red Book wrote: | The lowest in you is the source of mercy. We take this sickness upon ourselves, the inability to find peace, the baseness, and the contemptibility so that the God can be healed and radiantly ascend, purged of the decomposition of death and the mud of the underworld. The despicable prisoner will ascend to his salvation shining and wholly healed....
The lowest in you is the stone that the builders discarded. It will become the cornerstone. The lowest in you will grow like a grain of rice from dry soil, shooting up from the sand of the most barren desert, and rise and stand very tall. Salvation comes to you from the discarded. Your sun will rise from muddy swamps....
I have been baptized with impure water for rebirth. A flame from the fire of Hell awaited me above the baptismal basin. I have bathed myself with impurity and I have cleansed myself with dirt. |
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And Angus at Popehat.com: Do you also support Carl Jung's many calls for Communism?
| The Red Book, by Carl Jung wrote: | Break the Christ in yourself so that you may arrive at yourself and ultimately at your animal which is well-behaved in its herd and unwilling to infringe its laws. May it suffice in terms of transgression that you do not imitate Christ, since thereby you take a step back from Christianity and a step beyond it. Christ brought salvation through adeptness, and ineptitude will save you....
People don't understand when I tell them they should become acquainted with their animals or assimilate their animals. They think the animal is always jumping over walls and raising hell all over town. Yet in nature the animal is a well-behaved citizen. It is pious, it follows the path with great regularity, it does nothing extravagant. Only man is extravagant. |
| The Red Book, by Carl Jung wrote: | | [T]he psychology of the individual corresponds to the psychology of the nation. What the nation does is done also by each individual, and so long as the individual does it, the nation also does it. |
| The Red Book, by Carl Jung wrote: | I: "What is to be done?"
S: "Take a piece of the liver, in place of the whole, and eat it."
I: "What are you demanding? This is absolute madness. This is desecration, necrophilia. You make me a guilty party to this most hideous of all crimes."
S: "You have devised the most horrible torment for the murderer, which could atone for his act. There is only one atonement: abase yourself and eat."
I: "I cannot -- I refuse -- I cannot participate in this horrible guilt."
S: "You share in this guilt."
I: "I? Share in this guilt?"
S: "You are a man, and a man has committed this deed." |
Which are strangely similar to T.S. Eliot's views. Are all these fascists funded by the national security state? Is that where our tax dollars are going, to have fascist ideas shoved down our throat everywhere we fucking look?
| The Idea of a Christian Society, by T.S. Eliot wrote: | | The notion of communal responsibility, of the responsibility of every individual for the sins of the society to which he belongs, is one that needs to be more firmly apprehended; and if I share the guilt of my society in time of 'peace', I do not see how I can absolve myself from it in time of war, by abstaining from the common action. |
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And the bullshit, New Age solipsism -- I suppose you're into that as well, eh, Angus? We saw this idiotic attitude expressed in Al Capp and the Ford Foundation's "How the Montgomery Method Works," which the national security state made for Martin Luther King, obviously to condition his people for the backlash they didn't want to happen after they murdered him http://www.naderlibrary.com/martin.orderskill.toc.htm, along with bringing in James Brown to sing songs of love and peace. I love it: Fascists providing liberals their philosophical material, and liberals too stupid to know it. What a brilliant method for reconciling the opposites of Republican and Democrat.
| The Red Book, by Carl Jung wrote: | | When you go into the one and hence consider the other approaching you as your enemy, you will fight against the other. You will do so because you fail to recognize that the other is also in you. On the contrary, you think that the other comes somehow from without and you think that you also catch sight of it in the views and actions of your fellow men which clash with yours. You thus fight the other and are completely blinded. But he who accepts what approaches him because it is also in him, quarrels and wrangles no more, but looks into himself and keeps silent. |
| Be Here Now, by Ram Dass wrote: | WHEN YOU MEET SOMEBODY WHO IS
CAUGHT IN THE WORLD OF
WE AND THEM AND YOU ARE HIM
TO THAT PERSON
AND YOU GET CAUGHT IN HIS MIND NET
YOU ARE BOTH
JUST
INTENSIFYING
ONE ANOTHER'S
PARANOIA.
HIPPIES CREATE POLICE POLICE CREATE HIPPIES
IF YOU'RE
IN POLARITY YOU'RE CREATING
POLAR OPPOSITES
YOU
CAN ONLY
PROTEST
EFFECTIVELY
WHEN
YOU LOVE
THE
PERSON
WHOSE IDEAS YOU ARE
PROTESTING AGAINST
AS MUCH AS
YOU LOVE
YOURSELF |
Fucking ridiculous!
And don't think you're immune, fascists. This shit is for you, too. Hitler got there way before Ram Dass, and Carl Jung helped set the stage for Hitler. |
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And then, there are the exceptions -- you must have a flexible mind that can perform doublethink -- which just make you laugh out loud. Like the Supreme Court declaring George Bush the President!
| Carl Jung, The Red Book wrote: | | He sees the tree of life, whose roots reach into Hell and whose top touches Heaven. He also no longer knows differences: [212] who is right? What is holy? What is genuine? What is good? What is correct? He knows only one difference: the difference between below and above. For he sees that the tree of life grows from below to above, and that it has its crown at the top, clearly differentiated from the roots. To him this is unquestionable. Hence he knows the way to salvation. |
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And every fascist "thing" is a bridge back to solipsism and nihilism, a snake eating its tail. Take the "Phane/Phaen" thing, for example.
| The Red Book, by Carl Jung wrote: | | Just as the image [of the divine child] was finished in April 1919, and work on the next image had already begun, the one who brought the sun came, as Philemon had predicted to me. I called him Phanes, because he is the newly appearing God. |
David Lindsay, in "Voyage to Arcturus," describes the "Phaens" as follows:
| A Voyage to Arcturus, by David Lindsay wrote: | The phaen belonged, body and soul, to Faceny....
[Faceny] faces Nothingness in all directions. He has no back and no sides, but is all face; and this face is his shape. It must necessarily be so, for nothing else can exist between him and Nothingness. His face is all eyes, for he eternally contemplates Nothingness. He draws his inspirations from it; in no other way could he feel himself. For the same reason, phaens and even men love to be in empty places and vast solitudes, for each one is a little Faceny....
Thoughts flow perpetually from Faceny's face backward. Since his face is on all sides, however, they flow into his interior. A draught of thought thus continuously flows from Nothingness to the inside of Faceny, which is the world. The thoughts become shapes, and people the world. This outer world, therefore, which is lying all around us, is not outside at all, as it happens, but inside. The visible universe is like a gigantic stomach, and the real outside of the world we shall never see. |
Fascists can't stand pure nihilism; they must also have a sense of their completely isolated existence. They are both sadist AND masochist. And they MUST have their eyes. You can call their philosophy a modified form of nihilism, or a nihilism/solipsism combo, since they have no intention of killing themselves. But they don't mind killing you, since you're just a figment of their imagination according to their solipsism.
Actually, it's a nihilism/solipsism/eternalism combo, because God is there, too. Nothing exists except for you as God.
See how easy they make it to murder? That's the whole purpose of this philosophy. It's tailor-made for the CIA. To get rid of their guilt. Guilt for murder is a big problem for the CIA. And for other professional organizations involved in the business of murder, like the Military and the Mafia. Who can even imagine how many of our tax dollars go to solving this problem? And if they didn't keep the covert operators themselves in the dark about what they are doing, it'd be even bigger.
| The Red Book, by Carl Jung wrote: | | But why did my soul not tear out the eye of the evil one? The evil one has many eyes, and losing one amounts to losing none. But if she had done it, she would have come completely under the spell of the evil one. The evil one can only fail to make sacrifice. You should not harm him, above all not his eye, since the most beautiful would not exist if the evil one did not see it and long for it. The evil one is holy. |
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Would someone tell me what Jung is talking about here? I need a little help, Angus at Popehat.com, to interpret the meaning of this passage, which is beyond me. Jung has given us a few clues: he told us the story of Parsifal, and how Amfortas was wounded when he "let his sacred spear fall" while doing it with Kundry, and therefore needs the touch of a "spear" wielded by a "guileless and innocent youth" in order to be healed. And now he's talking about dead boys? Should I be linking to "The Franklin Cover-up," http://www.naderlibrary.com/franklincoveruptoc.htm or "Homosexual Prostitution Inquiry Ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush" http://www.naderlibrary.com/pervert.homoprosinquiry.htm ?
And if your explanation, Angus, is severely occulted, as I'm sure is your wont, don't you think that talking like this, as a lot of crazy Rosicrucians do, creates dangerous confusion? What if someone misses part of the "wisdom commentary"? The part that we hope says -- though I've never come across it due to the Rosicrucian love of ambiguity, and meanwhile, this shit is OUT there -- "Don't do this in real life; it's just a metaphor for some crazy spiritual ideas?" Who's in charge of making sure things go right? Because before you know it, you've got the Dutroux Affair http://www.naderlibrary.com/cult.beyonddutroux.htm, the McMartin pre-school disaster, and Michael Aquino.
It is EXTREMELY IRRESPONSIBLE for Jung to talk like this.
WHO is going to CRUSH these recklessly stated, dangerous ideas for the good of humanity?
"Dog Carries Puppies Out Of Burning House, Brings Them To Fire Truck," Huffington Post, 8/11/12
If I were to try and do so, would that lay me open to the charge of "Censorious Douchebag" from your illiterate Internet kult?
My first point of attack on this problem would be: Fuck ambiguity -- make your meaning clear or everyone should boycott you. We're not into buying your fucking secrets, which are just more occulted bullshit sold in a pyramid scam like Scientology, that never give "the answer." Like there IS an answer besides "42!"
| The Red Book, by Carl Jung wrote: | | We sacrificed innumerable victims to the dark depths, and yet it still demands more. What is this crazy desire craving satisfaction? Whose mad cries are these? Who among the dead suffers thus? Come here and drink blood, so that you can speak. Why do you reject the blood? Would you like milk? Or the red juice of the vine? Perhaps you would rather have love? Love for the dead? Being in love with the dead? Are you perhaps demanding the seeds of life for the faded thousand-year-old body of the underworld? An unchaste incestuous lust for the dead? Something that makes the blood run cold. Are you demanding a lusty commingling with corpses? I spoke of "acceptance" -- but you demand "to seize, embrace, copulate?" Are you demanding the desecration of the dead? That prophet, you say, lay on the child, and placed his mouth on the child's mouth, and his eyes on its eyes, and his hands on its hands and he thus splays himself over the boy, so that the child's body became warm. But he rose again and went here and there in the house before he mounted anew and spread himself over him again. The boy snorted seven times. Then the boy opened his eyes. So shall your acceptance be, so shall you accept, not cool, not superior, not thought out, not obsequious, not as a self-chastisement, but with pleasure, precisely with this ambiguous impure pleasure, whose ambiguity enables it to unite with the higher, with that holy-evil pleasure of which you do not know whether it be virtue or vice, with that pleasure which is lusty repulsiveness, lecherous fear, sexual immaturity. One wakens the dead with this pleasure. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Seriously, what is the point of saying that something is everything? You might as well say that it is nothing at all. It is an offense to reason.
| The Red Book, by Carl Jung wrote: | | On September 11, Philemon describes [Phanes] as follows: "Phanes is the God who rises agleam from the waters. / Phanes is the smile of dawn. / Phanes is the resplendent day / He is the immortal present. / He is the gushing streams. / He is the soughing wind. / He is hunger and satiation. / He is love and lust. / He is mourning and consolation. / He is promise and fulfillment. / He is the light that illuminates every darkness. / He is the eternal day! He is the silver light of the moon. / He is the flickering stars. / He is the shooting star that flashes and falls and lapses. / He is the stream of shooting stars that returns every year. / He is the returning sun and moon. / He is the trailing star that brings wars and noble wine. / He is the good and fullness of the year. / He fulfills the hours with life-filled enchantment. / He is love's embrace and whisper. / He is the warmth of friendship. / He is the hope that enlivens the void. / He is the magnificence of all renewed suns. / He is the joy at every birth. / He is the blooming flowers. / He is the velvety butterfly's wing. / He is the scent of blooming gardens that fills the nights. / He is the song of joy. / He is the tree of light. / He is perfection, everything done better. / He is everything euphonious. / He is the well-measured. / He is the sacred number. / He is the promise of life. / He is the contract and the sacred pledge. / He is the diversity of sounds and colors. / He is the sanctification of morning, noon, and evening. / He is the benevolent and the gentle. / He is salvation ... / In truth, Phanes is the happy day ... / In truth, Phanes is work and its accomplishment and its remuneration. / He is the troublesome task and the evening calm. / He is the step on the middle way, its beginning, its middle, and its end. / He is foresight. / He is the end of fear. / He is the sprouting seed, the opening bud. / He is the gate of reception, of acceptance and deposition. / He is the spring and the desert. / He is the safe haven and the stormy night. / He is the certainty in desperation./ He is the solid in dissolution. / He is the liberation from imprisonment. / He is counsel and strength in advancement. / He is the friend of man, the light emanating from man, the bright glow that man beholds on his path. / He is the greatness of man, his worth, and his force." |
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