HOW I GOT INTO SCIENTOLOGY AND WHY I GOT OUT -- ILLUSTRATED INTERVIEW WITH JASON BEGHE
And if Scientology is real, then something is fucked up. Because it ain't delivering what it has promised. That's for goddamn sure! It is not! It says it delivers what it promises. Where's the fucking Clear? You're talking about OTs -- let me meet a motherfucking Clear. I would like to meet a motherfucking Clear.
I'm "Clear," right? I'm declared Clear as a fucking bell. I went Clear twice as a matter of fact.
So pull out a fucking copy of Dianetics, and let's hear the definition of Clear. And then they change it a little bit more, and say "no longer has his own reactive mind" -- "his own," so they can sell the OT levels.
But what I see, see now it ain't a joke when you're talking about this. This is the bad stuff. I think, from my own experience, and from what I've seen, the further up you go the Bridge, the worse you get. That's what I see. Some people are "happier" --
but who is happy? I submit to you that it's not them anymore. And I know people that are troubled to death. They just finished OT8 and they have migraines. Migraines!? A fucking Clear doesn't have migraines! This is an OT8 for God's sake! Migraines? "Migraines is an engram that you can handle in Clear."
I mean, come on! And they're still fucking gung ho, and OT ambassadors, and all this shit, and running around trying to do the job of the OT8s who are really the powerhouses. And so they believe that. And so they're "happy" because they're fucking doing something to save the planet. And they're running around doing this stuff, but it's just like that theta trap. It's just one guy stuck in a theta trap and he's unhappy, and another guy's stuck in it and he's "happy."
Because he's convinced himself. And he's just "Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha!"
I mean, it's awful. What's worse? I'd rather be depressed than that. Oy yo yoy. It's sad.
Q. So what would you say to people who are still in?
A. If somebody's still in, listen, you've got to make your own move.
It's like this. Hopefully this will communicate. Like I said before, I used to smoke. I have my little son, and I never smoked in front of my son. But kids are smart. And he'd find a cigarette and he'd be going like this --
And he couldn't even walk, and he'd be going like this [lighting a cigarette]. And I said, "I've gotta fucking quit! You know, and I couldn't quit. I'd tried to quit a bunch of times. I found this thing called "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking," and it worked for me. And it was easy. It was very easy.
Part of the whole smoking thing -- according to this thing that worked for me -- is that it's not as bad as you think it is.
So for somebody who is in, as far gone as I say you are going up, the difference between waking up and being asleep is the difference between waking up and being asleep.
And it's like sometimes, when you're asleep, you can still hear the shit that's going on around you because you're only half asleep.